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Japanese Whale Hunt by mrsthing on 20 November 2007 3:35pm
 
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=3885365

Japan has sent 4 ships to hunt humpback whales in the seas around Antarctica, despite the fact that these whales are protected. They say it's for "research", and therefore permitted by law. They plan to take up to 50 humpback whales. The Japanese hunting methods ensure that the animal dies from torture and stress. At the same time, a spokesman has said that they have to preserve their "whale-eating culture" and describes Greenpeace and other environmental activists as "violent terrorists".

I know there are other issues in the world that are more pressing, and it's not that I don't care, but after having had a close encounter with a humpback whale, it breaks my heart to think that their beautiful voices will be cut off. They're intelligent creatures with a culture of their own.

But aside from donating to Greenpeace, what can a person do? Am I just a hopeless wuss for caring more about this than about starving children or political oppression?
 
Re: Japanese Whale Hunt by elina on 20 November 2007 4:45pm
 
Like dear late Mr. Chapman would say, "I'm lost." I read the article and I am more confused about their reasons. I see the Japanese point of view about preserving the cultural thing, but why is it have to be humpback whales? And if the species is preserved how is it even possible to let them kill 50 of those whales? I can't undestand that.

"Japan says it needs to kill the animals in order to conduct research on their reproductive and feeding patterns." Wouldn't that be easier when the whales are alive and living in the ocean? And what the whale-eating culture has to do with that?

What can one person do? I suppose nothing, really. That's the sad thing.
 
Re: Japanese Whale Hunt by Lounge Trekker on 20 November 2007 6:18pm
 
Research my eye. As elina said about research on live specimens, a satellite transmission tag will reveal a lot about the whale behaviour.

It is all about trying to re-establish the whale hunt for food. They are challenged in the food supply area, no question. I just hope a balance can be found. There is nothing more dangerous than a hungry Japanese cook...and the 300 million people he's expecting to feed.

I see whales every year and can be moved to tears by these amazing citizens of our planet.

Lounge Trekker
 
Re: Japanese Whale Hunt by tucsonmike on 20 November 2007 6:30pm
 
Whales should be protected, but I consider situations such as Darfur slightly more dire.
 
Re: Japanese Whale Hunt by johnnythemonkey on 20 November 2007 6:35pm
 
Meg was just about to cook whale for dinner. I've stopped her in the nick of time. We're having dolphin instead.

If this was about 'research', why do they keep eating the specimens ?
 
Re: Japanese Whale Hunt by MMMmmm... on 20 November 2007 9:57pm
 
I don't understand why otherwise intelligent people like most of the Japanese are in such denial about how they are over-fishing the oceans. What will become of their "whale-eating culture", when there are no whales left to eat? How can they slaughter such incredibly intelligent and loving animals as dolphins? I think they are just being stubborn, they don't want to be told what to do. But they need to realize and see what they really are doing - because they are rapidly helping destroy the oceans of the world, and the beauty of their culture. It's like they're blind to actuality and think it's all going to stay the same, and always be there for them.
It's very ignorant of reality.
 
Re: Japanese Whale Hunt by Godfather on 20 November 2007 10:55pm
 
Nice to see people up in arms to the same degree about all the millions of cows,sheep,chickens,fish,pigs,and pretty much everything else that are despatched every year. Oh I see,they're "different" somehow? Not as majestic? Too many of them to be concerned? Too small to matter? Out of sight? Records of their sounds are not as relaxing to listen to? Like everyone else,I don't like that the Japanese are doing this. But can somebody please explain the difference between what would be called "Barbarian whalers" and the systematic death industry that goes on behind the doors and ends up in cellophane wrappers in supermarkets? Japan calls the west out on its hypocrisy for a very good reason.
 
Re: Japanese Whale Hunt by MMMmmm... on 20 November 2007 11:16pm
 
I am an octolovo vegetarian (I eat eggs and dairy, but I get them from local organic cage-free farms, etc.). Personally I don't like to be part of the kill animals to eat process. But one major difference in this instance with the Japanese hunters is that the dolphins and whales are not bred and raised for food - they are wild and a more limited resource. Their very existence is more and more precarious. Some groups of animals are more endangered than others. The factory farming method used to raise and kill most domesticated livestock for food is horrid and hideous.
But what the Japanese hunters and consumers are doing is hideous too - each is just in it's own unique hideous way. You can't have a whale factory farm.
 
Re: Japanese Whale Hunt by Lounge Trekker on 20 November 2007 11:43pm
 
I give credit to the Japanese population for generations back. They have a land shortage for their population (I think)...872.8 people per square km, 30th in the world.

USA 31
UK 637
Can 8.3
Aus 6.7

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ name your country

I think these guys will eat ANYTHING. Give them credit for that. So they aren't admitting it, but they need the food.

Lounge Diner
 
Re: Japanese Whale Hunt by johnnythemonkey on 21 November 2007 2:30am
 
Let them eat cake ?
 
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