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What do you think about the burqa ban? by ev on 12 April 2011 10:18am
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/11/france-bans-burqa-and-niqab
 
Re: What do you think about the burqa ban? by bIG bLOGGER on 12 April 2011 1:32pm
 
Topical subject, ev. My compliments to you for making a thread on it.
Good Press article,as well,in which the 2 salient statements seem to be:
1) In France the Church and the State are separate.
2) In France Islamophobia is on the rise.
Not being a Muslim man, or woman,I have no strong views on this topic as it does not concern me directly. There is a large Muslim community in France so I believe it will cause a lot of ill-feeling. However, I believe that this new law may be justified on security grounds alone.

I am still trying to understand what these different foreign words signify:

jilbab: a long,loose-fitting coat or garment worn by Muslim women in accordance with the Quran. [French: Le Manteau]

niqab: a veil covering the hair and face, except for the eyes, worn by Muslim women.

burka [or burqa]: a silk garment worn by Muslim women with veiled holes for the eyes. Especially worn by women in India and Pakistan under the influence of the radical Taliban.

hijab: an Arabic word meaning curtain, or cover. A hijab is a garment worn in public by Muslim women, authorised by the Quran, covering everything except the hands and face, usually worn for reasons of modesty, privacy or morality.

 
Re: What do you think about the burqa ban? by suzulu on 12 April 2011 2:13pm
 
I haven't read all the article but although I don't agree that women should hide their faces and a lot of them don't, if the women want to wear niqabs or burqas then they should. Sarkozy has no right to interfere in their religion or culture.
 
Re: What do you think about the burqa ban? by TERRY S on 12 April 2011 5:04pm
 
I'm on the fence. I don't think we should be telling people what they can and cannot wear, but also I'm quite shy and hate not being able to see people's faces. So, yes and no.
 
Re: What do you think about the burqa ban? by Lounge Trekker on 12 April 2011 7:42pm
 
I have seen no women in my small circle of Canada wearing a burqa. There is a section in the Criminal Code of Canada forbidding disguise.

Personally, if we take one step toward Allah, he will take two towards us. Our legislation could allow them to be worn when the woman is alone outside a public building, but require the face to be exposed when operating a vehicle and in a group within a public space.

 
Re: What do you think about the burqa ban? by Loretto on 13 April 2011 12:11am
 
Sarcozy does not tolerate differences AT ALL. Remember his treatment of the Romas? This guy is suffering from a Napoleon complex. Even worse, Nicky is 5' 5" and Nappy was 5' 7"......so Nicky has a bigger complex than Nappy because he's two inches shorter.

Solution:
Wear two inch heels and leave people alone ya short a..r...s...e!
 
Re: What do you think about the burqa ban? by Tbrose on 13 April 2011 1:20am
 
Well put, Loretto!

The burqa ban is a bit much. To my knowledge, many Islamic women don't wear full veil so it is crossing the line of taking away a personal right. They will either get over it for the most part or have something new to complain about.
 
Re: What do you think about the burqa ban? by tucsonmike on 13 April 2011 2:55am
 
In the United States, I have not seen burqas. By wearing them it would tell me they do not want to become full citizens of their nations. You wonder why they left their home countries in the first place.

This is not a slap @ Islam, as a Jew, I cannot fathom Hasidic Jews. I wish them no harm, I just don't get it.

Honestly though, Radical Islam is a threat.

Yes, I am rambling because my feelings are mixed.
 
Re: What do you think about the burqa ban? by kazzzz on 13 April 2011 8:42am
 
I just bet you haven't Mike. The reaction there would be extreme I suspect.
People wear them here and really, noone takes much notice. Live and let live.
I see some people as Radical Christians. They're a threat too. Radical extremists are on both sides. I'm so sick of this world being held hostage by religion.
 
Re: What do you think about the burqa ban? by perfectbitch on 13 April 2011 10:57am
 
There are certain situations where wearing the burqa would be detremental - driving, where vision would be restricted: teaching, as facial expression is so much part of communication. etc.

When I was training for Celta, one girl who had parents of different cultures and religion chose to wear the jihab and head covering. Still, I couldn't help feeling that she was in denial about issues of freedom.

I think that having to bow to Mecca 5 times a day is tantamount to mild brainwashing but there is that aspect to most religions.

It is a difficult subject but I agree with Mike that radical Islam is dangerous (so is fundamental Christianity - assassinating doctors who perform terminations for example).

I like Lounge Trecker's statement about taking one step towards Allah.

Linz
 
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