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Really upset today...! by TERRY S on 20 June 2011 2:08am
 
Here's why:

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/jewish-court-sentences-dog-death-stoning-170029405.html#mwpphu-container

Always tried to have sympathy with the Jews, after reading about the Holocaust, Anne Frank, etc. but this has NOT endeared me to them at all!
 
Re: Really upset today...! by mp_addict19 on 20 June 2011 8:04pm
 
*puzzled look* What? *silent for a few seconds* Wow, that's just . . . wow. How do they know that the dog was a reincarnation of some lawyer?
 
Re: Really upset today...! by Loretto on 20 June 2011 9:50pm
 
I read the article attached to your link this morning Terry S but now the article seems to have been removed.

All it takes is a couple of fruit cakes to decide that this is how justice should be carried out, I doubt very much that the entire diaspora of Jewish people think that this was a "just" decision.

Here's the article JERUSALEM (AFP) A Jerusalem rabbinical court condemned to death by stoning a dog it suspects is the reincarnation of a secular lawyer who insulted the court's judges 20 years ago, Ynet website reported Friday.

According to Ynet, the large dog made its way into the Monetary Affairs Court in the ultra-Orthodox Jewish neighbourhood of Mea Shearim in Jerusalem, frightening judges and plaintiffs.

Despite attempts to drive the dog out of the court, the hound refused to leave the premises.

One of the sitting judges then recalled a curse the court had passed down upon a secular lawyer who had insulted the judges two decades previously.

Their preferred divine retribution was for the lawyer's spirit to move into the body of a dog, an animal considered impure by traditional Judaism.

Clearly still offended, one of the judges sentenced the animal to death by stoning by local children.

The canine target, however, managed to escape.

"Let the Animals Live", an animal-welfare organisation filed a complaint with the police against the head of the court, Rabbi Avraham Dov Levin, who denied that the judges had called for the dog's stoning, Ynet reported.

One of the court's managers, however, confirmed the report of the lapidation sentence to Israeli daily Yediot Aharonot.

"It was ordered... as an appropriate way to 'get back at' the spirit which entered the poor dog," the paper reported the manager as saying, according to Ynet.

Certain schools of thought within Judaism believe in the transmigration of souls, or reincarnation.

 
Re: Really upset today...! by suzulu on 21 June 2011 12:19pm
 
OMG! Reincarnation?? If they believe the dog is a reincarnation of whoever it was, the poor dog wouldn't know! That is just horrible! And to get CHILDREN to stone him, horrible, horrible, horrible!
 
Re: Really upset today...! by Sonny Syde on 21 June 2011 12:23pm
 
And to think that I slapped my old dog Rusty's arse for savaging a few children. ;)
 
Re: Really upset today...! by Loretto on 21 June 2011 3:30pm
 
OK Terry S, that article is very interesting and raises a ton of questions. I learned that the area where the rabbinical court is located, Mea Shearim, also has the largest population of Haredi Jews. They practice the most theologically conservative form of Judaism.

Sue raises an even more troubling question, why choose children to carry out the punishment? My guess is to induct believers into this crazy line of thinking as soon as possible. Sounds familiar to me.
 
Re: Really upset today...! by TERRY S on 21 June 2011 6:01pm
 
Just to clarify: I'm not saying I hate ALL Jews because of this, I don't. I'm just saying, this doesn't help their case much. Especially with animal lovers like myself.
 
Re: Really upset today...! by Loretto on 21 June 2011 6:45pm
 
I know that Terry. There are fanatics in all religions and that's what turns me off. They cause such a divide between people and isn't religion supposed to be about forgiveness anyway??? Heck what do I know!?
 
Re: Really upset today...! by Loretto on 29 June 2011 10:05pm
 
I am upset over the fact that the release and further silence of Chinese political dissidents was put on the back burner during talks between German and Chinese officials. Glad that Germany negotiated a 250 million Euro trade deal, money before human rights, the way of the world it seems.

Actually it makes sense now why the NY Times reported Hu Jia's release in Sunday's paper. BBC News headlined his release with "Guarded welcome to Hu Jia release," adding that it would appear the political activist has been silenced, "put under close surveillance and banned from talking to the media."

BBC News also mentioned that China's Premier was scheduled to be in Germany at some point this week. "German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle hopes to discuss human rights with him."

Spiegal had nothing in the front pages/headlines on Sunday about Hu Jia's release, and now we know why.

Euro News announced yesterday that that China is Germany's 3rd biggest trade partner and that they had struck the $250 million trade deal.

Today's Spiegel takes a moral look at the deals struck between the two countries; hind sight is 20/20.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,771338,00.html

"Although the German chancellor talked of her pleasure at the release of the artist Ai Weiwei and other political prisoners and called for "transparent" legal proceedings, the focus of the meeting was very much on trade."
 
Re: Really upset today...! by tucsonmike on 2 July 2011 2:50am
 
Thanks Terry, as someone who is American and Jewish ethnically, I am already relieved...
I avoid organized religion. Loretto, China is a whole other story.
 
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