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Things Irish. by tucsonmike on 26 July 2011 2:05am
 
Loretto, I will try and post stuff on my blog from my viewpoint as a non Irish person involved with Irish culture and enjoying it.
 
Re: Things Irish. by Loretto on 26 July 2011 2:07pm
 
Lovely Mike. I'll have a look there. It's nice to see how the Irish are perceived.
 
Re: Things Irish. by tucsonmike on 27 July 2011 1:57am
 
Glad to be of use, Loretto, LOL!
 
Re: Things Irish. by sighthound on 27 July 2011 5:38am
 
Can you speak Irish, Loretto? I really, really want to learn to speak the language of my ancestors.
 
Re: Things Irish. by Loretto on 27 July 2011 2:22pm
 
I can indeed Geraldine. I used to teach it for an American Organization called The Wild Geese. There are some pretty good CD's out there now too.

I have posted this here before but it is funny and worth watching again...

Irish Language Lab
http://youtu.be/As8quxqkVpE
 
Re: Things Irish. by sighthound on 27 July 2011 6:34pm
 
OOOHHHH, thank you so much, Loretto! I had to listen to it three times because I was laughing so hard that I missed so much of the dialogue.

Will talk to you privately about how I might learn my ancestral language.
 
Re: Things Irish. by Loretto on 27 July 2011 8:55pm
 
Just one question Geraldine...
"Does the bride come with potatoes?"

Mike.....any Irish man worth his weight in salt would understand the following expressions;
1. Gobshite
2. Joe Dolan
3. The N-17
4. Slane for turf cutting
5. Yer man
6. Yer one (pronounced 'wan')
7. 'Tis
8. 'tisn't
9. 'Twas
10 'Twill be
11. Lambing Season
12. Pulling a calf
 
Re: Things Irish. by tucsonmike on 28 July 2011 1:48am
 
Thanks Loretto. I have a question. How much is Gaelic used in daily discourse and are there things where you need to switch to English to express them? Sort of the same way many think German is a great language for technical matters, etc.
 
Re: Things Irish. by Loretto on 28 July 2011 3:47am
 
Hi Mike, It is late but tomorrow is a busy day so I'll post this now.

http://www.gaeltachttravel.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/anghaeltacht.gif

The map shows areas of Ireland where Irish is still spoken as the main language. I spent 4 weeks every summer in High school in the largest Gaeltacht area of Ireland, Connemara. The actor Peter O'Toole was born there.

The town I stayed in was called Rosmuc and the Easter 1916 rebel Pádraig Mac Piarais had an all boys school there called St. Edna's, I believe. By the time I was going there for 4 weeks every summer it was co-ed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosmuck

The word "Gaeltacht" means Gaelic speaking area. I loved it there, not initially, but eventually. The scenery in Connemara allegedly inspired the author Tolkien in the landscapes used to create The Lord of the Rings Trilogy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connemara

The Irish language is interspersed with English words too. If something in Pop culture is being described/talked about in Irish, we use the English word for it.

I loved speaking Irish, can't say I was fantastic and completely fluent at it, but I did advanced studies in Irish for my final exam in Secondary School in Ireland.

To be honest I can't see much use for the language in today's world and even though I cringe at the thought of Irish going the same way as Cornish, I think if it costs money to keep a language alive, then something is wrong. Language is a living thing, and like all living things, I suppose, it too has a death.

At the moment in Ireland Irish Schools that teach every subject in Irish are thriving. It is not an easy language to listen to, like Italian or French, but I am glad that I can speak it.

http://youtu.be/jZQqTveIcLE
Here is how it sounds.

Oíche mhaith chairde anois. Beidh mé ar ais amárach. Beannacht do anois.

Sláinte!
 
Re: Things Irish. by sighthound on 28 July 2011 9:47pm
 
Loretto, I know a lot of Irish potato references but that one escapes me. Please explain.

And I get most of the ones you challenged Mike with but not all. ("Lambing season" and "pulling a calf" have been very important in my life.) Maybe you should explain them all to the list.

I so envy you for having been able to converse in our ancient language. Thanks so much for the links. I will never be fluent in Irish but I just want to know how to pronounce it!
 
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