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Ideas needed..on teaching creation (would you believe - I think we've been here before)!!! by Katie J on 13 April 2005 4:57pm
 
I know we chatted about this recently (I seemed to have a lot to say on the matter....as always!) ... but would you believe it my Mum has to give an R.E. lesson on Creation (to Chruch of England primary school children) soon.

She asked me to research it on the web (clearly not being that interested in my 'fascinating' insights!!).

Have any of you lot ever taught it on a basic level...or have any ideas on how to teach it without boring/freaking out the kiddies?

Cheers, Katie J

(no comments like teach the Big Bang theory as my Dad helpfully offered last night !!)

: )
 
Re: Ideas needed..on teaching creation (would you believe - I think we've been here before)!!! by keys on 13 April 2005 8:58pm
 
I guess that rules out Darwin ;)

How about through a narrative with pics (colourful cutouts) and stuff? Like the 'Children's Storytime'sketch without the naughty bits?
 
Re: Ideas needed..on teaching creation (would you believe - I think we've been here before)!!! by Ken Dunn on 13 April 2005 9:03pm
 
Creation from the church's point of view is as defined in the Bible i.e. Adam and Eve etc.
Creation from the scientific point of view goes into Darwinism and the theory of evolution.
It would depend on which one you want to do or you could base your presentation on a comparison between the two.
 
Re: Ideas needed..on teaching creation (would you believe - I think we've been here before)!!! by Dr. Piglet on 13 April 2005 9:07pm
 
well, but you could sneak a bit of science into it. i like keys idea - and you could illustrate it as a metaphor - for the first day, you put a picture of space - dark and empty - then continue with the sun, moon and planets, then the oceans, volcanoes, dinosaurs, etc. illustrate it like the seven ages of earth, then put in the literalist pictures to show the children how a simple metaphor can be made into a beautiful story to illustrate scientific fact.

*ducks*

 
Re: Ideas needed..on teaching creation (would you believe - I think we've been here before)!!! by Dr. Piglet on 13 April 2005 9:08pm
 
...and i wouldn't be going into the theory of immanent deity with grade-school kids....

*ducks again*

 
Re: Ideas needed..on teaching creation (would you believe - I think we've been here before)!!! by perfectbitch on 13 April 2005 9:20pm
 
If your Mum takes it from Adam and Eve, ask her to take a look at Lilith. She was Adam's first "wife" (also made from clay) who did not take kindly to the deal she was offered and scarpered. So, the story goes, God had to use Adam's rib to create Eve because he had run out of clay. Lilith then was maligned as evil and in some versions of the story, was credited with being the serpent. This version of the story used to be in the bible but she got written out sometime in the days of yore. I reckon I'd have liked this woman.
 
Re: Ideas needed..on teaching creation (would you believe - I think we've been here before)!!! by Ahren on 13 April 2005 10:00pm
 
Wow! You learn something new every day!!
If God could create the Heavens and the Earth and everything else, how come he couldnt just create some more clay?!
 
Re: Ideas needed..on teaching creation (would you believe - I think we've been here before)!!! by Dr. Piglet on 13 April 2005 10:23pm
 
yup - lilith got written out of the original (babylonian) version of the creation myth because she was too much of an upstart chick. the early hebrew patriarchs amended the story to reflect their notion of woman coming "from man" (and not the other way around, which is the biological reality) again, in the original, the word used for divinity is female. of course when it came to be translated for mass consumption, the word was changed to reflect a masculine gender.

the moral of the story being of course, that only the submissive, compliant women get to have a husband and babies - the other kind get cast out to run around in the woods and consort with pythons.

*runs off to the woods with my favorite python*

 
Re: Ideas needed..on teaching creation (would you believe - I think we've been here before)!!! by julwis on 14 April 2005 12:37am
 
The art of not boring the **** out of students is probably the most fundamental problem in teaching.
If your mum is already a teacher then shell already know this, my experience is limited to teaching English or teaching technical folk smart enough to teach themselves. Having said that, the art of TEFL teaching doesnt rely heavily on the material taught, more as to the approach used. A noted TEFL instructor called Jeremy Harmer cites a method of Engage, Study, Activate.
Engaging the class involves showing them pictures and asking them questions just to get them thinking about the subject they will study. The answers you get from the kids will give an indication of what they know and what direction the class should take.
Study involves telling them the facts once theyve got in the mood for learning, and Activate is getting them to take these ideas and run with them, by doing follow up tasks.
Kids arent going to remember huge volumes of facts so just keep the facts, if you can call them that, to a minimum and work on making the class memorable.
Obviously research and preparation is vital, since different doctorines will have different views, but the key is to be imaginative and try to run the class so that the pace is maintained throughout.
 
Re: Ideas needed..on teaching creation (would you believe - I think we've been here before)!!! by George on 14 April 2005 3:45am
 
Unless this is some kind of huge project for your mother, please don't go to any trouble. If the Church of England is like most churches, there is already a "universe" of teaching materials already available. Their website & links will give her access to DVD's, readers with Q & A sheets, videos, & step-by-step instructions; all of it age-specific & doctrine approved to take her through the entire teaching process, if that what she wants. All of it at modest prices, I'll guess. No sense re-inventing the wheel if you don't have to.
 
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