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Ripping ourselves off by ZERO on 3 August 2005 10:37pm
I love Michael Palin and I love his travel documentaries but in the end I have to to admit that I feel completely empty and depressed within a few momnets of watching his shows.

Instead of sitting on the couch and watching other people go places and do thing I could be there myself but I won't since I am lazy and I am a coward.

I work for 9 hours a day and sleep for 7. Then I spend a few hours doing stuff like household/grocery shopping, commuting and eating dinner. That just gives me about 4 hours a day when I don't have to do anything and can be myself. But instead of being myself and having original thoughts or experiences I spend 2-3 of those free hours watching TV.


I'm not kidding. All those things you wanted to have in your life: passion, romance, love, childhood, parenthood, adventure? when are you going to do all that?

You're staring at a piece of furniture!
Re: Ripping ourselves off by maddog76 on 24 August 2005 10:41pm
Zero, that's life!
We all need to clean the kitchen when diner is done. And to get da food on the table we need to work.. And as most hard working people we have a few holidays that we can spend...

Cutting down TV hours and spend it outside, or even reading a book can cheer u up more then u think. Looking at a flower that closes when the sun goes down is way better then all the crap these major broadcasters are serving us...

When we are wise and old(er) there will be more time to travel.

But never be depressed watching Palin's travels... Just enjoy it!

Hang in there!

Re: Ripping ourselves off by theoriginalaido on 25 August 2005 2:20am
Well if you are doing only nine hours work a day you need to do more

See if you can up it to thirteen or fourteen and at least six days. Then spend the rest of your time working up the courage to jack it all in.

By the time you do that you should be rich enough to travel for a year without anything to hold you back.

The lots of work means you can't spend the money cos you don't have time.

Work or Travel, cos very few people are lucky enough to do both.
Re: Ripping ourselves off by perfectbitch on 25 August 2005 12:23pm
I noticed that, in your list of things you want out of life, you mentioned childhood. It strikes me that you may have had an unhappy start in life which, if you let it, can cloud things for a while. These days, it's all to easy to become depressed and it would be odd if anyone as obviously intelligent as yourself didn't get low from time to time. However, there is much to enjoy and self discovery is not dependent on travel although it does help, I grant you. Conversely, I have known well travelled people who wouldn't recognise themselves even if they were cloned!

I have a friend who is a chef and he is able to do a little work on his travels although, in order to save, he works like a Trojan in much the way that theoriginalaido suggests. Independence doesn't come cheap. Good Luck, Linz
Re: Ripping ourselves off by pandab on 26 August 2005 1:05am
The title says it all, "Ripping Ourselves Off".

The way I see it, it is a matter of personal responsibility and choice. You CAN make the decision to not rip yourself off. You CAN make the decision to do the things you dream.

Okay ... So, you might have to start small. A 'round-the-world trip might not be feasible, but what about the next city over from your own? I don't know where you live, but what about a day-trip to a nearby national park?

Can't afford even that, but you still want to expand your horizons? Hey, I've been there <G>. Does your city have a public library? Make the decision to turn off the TV and open a book. It doesn't matter what kind. Just pick something that appeals--mystery, romance, science fiction, history, biography. You'll be surprised at how reading can help combat that going-nowhere-fast feeling. And, best of all, you can make it a family affair. Declare one night a week (or every other week or whatever) as Book Night, and read to and with your family. Everyone gets turn to read to everyone else.

Sure, none of this sounds as exciting as going around the world, but a satisfying life is made up of the mundane with little bursts of excitement to add spice. Learn to find satisfaction when and where you can.

But, first and foremost, YOU have to seize responsiblity for yourself and make the choice.
Re: Ripping ourselves off by tucsonmike on 26 August 2005 2:20am
It is a matter of personal responsibility. Agreed with Pandab and Perfect. Sometimes, you have to go with the flow and make your breaks. I learned this the hard way. I spent much of my life doing what I was told would work. I also understand the Mexican phrase "Ni Modo." The literal translation is No Way! It's used colloquially as "tough luck."
Things happen. One door closes, another opens.
Re: Ripping ourselves off by jojochick on 29 August 2005 7:03pm
Reading your post Zero I was reminded of myself about 5 years ago. I was stuck in a going-nowhere-but-reasonably-well-paid-and-safe job that I hated. I felt miserable on the bus to work and not much better on the bus back home ('cos I knew it would all start again tomorrow). It wasn't the job that was getting me down, that was as crap as it had ever been, it was the fact that I felt powerless to get out. I was scared of taking the plunge and leaving besides which I had no idea what I wanted to do. I was terrified of getting a new job and then ending up laid off and unemployed. I finally took a job in a friend's shop, he opened a mobile phone store in my home town and despite being no expert on mobile technology I took the chance. I loved the job and enjoyed keeping up on all this exicting technical stuff. I happily worked long hours in the shop and gained new confidence in my own abilities to learn something new and take a risk. Course my new found confidence took a major dent when I was made redundant due to the company deciding to close the retail branches in order to concentrate on internet sales. Since then I have done temporary office work and I quite like the sense of freedom it gives me, not staying in one place longer than 6 months suits me. The plan now is to get my (many)debts paid off (slowly but surely I'm starting to get there - yeah right) so that I can take time out and do some travelling... if the old man don't like it I'll go alone I'm so determined.
So all I can say Zero, is yeah things might look pretty pointless right now, but you've gotta stand back and look at the bigger picture babe - if it's a murky brown colour it's up to you to chuck a laod of bright colours at the canvas and go for it.
Re: Ripping ourselves off by Aiyer on 29 August 2005 9:57pm
Zero you wrote down so how I feel! Just been feeling that life is going too quickly and I'm only young! And everyone's replies, they are real, reassuring and you're reminded that things will change and life's basics like a blue sky, a tree, flower, a book, meditation, other people's messages on this board are free when you feel stuck, so appreciate the little things and it will change, bit by bit. It is happening, honest, I just got a proper job after a year looking,so can start saving and get some independence but sometimes I just need people to remind me when I feel left behind. Cheers to you all x
Re: Ripping ourselves off by tucsonmike on 30 August 2005 3:14am
Allow me to tell a story to illustrate I am not just telling folks to do something, but have been in the soup.
I was laid off from a library job right around September 11th in the New York Metropolitan Area. I busily felt very sorry for myself. Then, someone in a Toastmasters club told me about an organization for professionals at New Jersey Unemployment. We helped lift each others spirits and taught each other things. Eventually, I came to Tucson.

Things have been SO much better, as unpleasant as parts of that period were, I've been brought to a better place. It sounds trite and corny, but there it is.

In the darkest times, I could still laugh at some silly things. Now my life is better than I could ever have imagined. Just by following my gut and moving to Tucson and learning new skills and having a blast doing it.

Re: Ripping ourselves off by pandab on 31 August 2005 2:24am
I think everyone goes through a period in their life when things just can't seem to get lower ... and then they do.

It's a horrible thing. You feel helpless and trapped. It's not that there is no light at the end of the tunnel. There is no light. You're not even in a tunnel. You're in a cave, and the entrance just collapsed.

Years ago, I was broke. Christmas was coming, and I was in a job that literally made me throw up in the morning just thinking about going to it.

What did I do? I baked cookies. I know that sounds silly, but that's what lit the fuse that eventually blasted me free of my cave.

You see, I only had about $50 to my name, and it was a week before Christmas. I was so depressed I seemed to spend most of my time crying. Doing the only thing I could think of, I went to the grocery store and bought the makings for chocolate chip cookies. I don't remember how many dozen I was able to bake, but it was enough to put into paperbags I decorated with leftover ribbon and cutouts from old holiday cards. I used my PC to print copies of a Christmas poem and stuck it in there, too.

I remember feeling so ashamed when I handed out my "presents", but to my everlasting shock, everyone went berserk over them. Had I actually made them? From scratch? Could they have more? Would I do it again next year? Please? Pretty please?

It got me thinking. I had fun making them. Everyone seemed to really like eating them. Who knew that taking charge in such a simple way could totally turn my holiday around? But could I expand on it? Within six months, I had a new job that didn't sicken me and a new outlook I've only occasionally let grow dim.

That was over 10 years ago, now. I said I'm stopping the Christmas baking a couple times. After all, my financial position lets me buy "real" presents now, but my family and friends howl in protest. Absolutely not! They want cookies and cakes for Christmas, and by damn, they mean to get them.

Now, I look at it as paying homage to learning a valuable lesson about making choices and doing what I can. I have a blast doing it (it beats the hell out of fighting the mob at the mall), and the goodies aren't too shabby either <G>.
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