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The Rise and Fall of Eliot Spitzer. by tucsonmike on 14 March 2008 8:17pm
 
New York's Governor takes a dive. My parents arrive Monday. This should be fun. I am going to greet them @ the airport with "How is the Governor doing?"
 
Re: The Rise and Fall of Eliot Spitzer. by fairygirl48 on 14 March 2008 9:12pm
 
Hahaha, sounds like fun!
 
Re: The Rise and Fall of Eliot Spitzer. by canaveralgumby on 15 March 2008 12:49am
 
Tuscon, I think people all over the world are saying, "Who?"
 
Re: The Rise and Fall of Eliot Spitzer. by sighthound on 15 March 2008 2:16am
 
I finally saw the new governor today, the one who is being loudly touted as "only the second black governor in U.S. history!" I swear that at least 75% of his ancestors must be white. When are we EVER going to get over the racism that identifies anyone with even one black ancestor as "black"?!!! The guy is mixed race. Obama is mixed race. Let's just get over all this polarizing labeling....

I find it much more exciting that he is legally blind. THAT will do a lot to make a big difference in the lives of a lot of blind people (75% of whom are unemployed!)
 
Re: The Rise and Fall of Eliot Spitzer. by pandab on 15 March 2008 5:15am
 
I admit I was only marginally aware of Eliot Spitzer. I mean, I knew the name and that he had prosecuted a few Wall Street bigwigs, but that was about it.

I find the whole thing depressing and disappointing, but not terribly surprising.

The old saying is true. All power corrupts, and this adds yet more truth to it. When will people in power, whether politicians or not, realize they are not allowed to do anything they please just because they are in power? It is a naive question, I know.

Still, I am sick and tired of it. If you are going to present yourself as holier-than-thou, it seems to me you would want to make damn sure you really are.

I don't care how Spitzer gets his jollies, but just because of he had always presented himself, I say he deserves everything he gets.

As far as racism in America goes ... I have often wondered the same thing, Sighthound. One of the stupidest things I heard in this campaign so far was a NPR report earlier asking whether Obama was black enough. A commentator I read in my local paper posed the question of whether Hillary is feminine enough.

Could someone please tell me why I should care about either issue?

Sadly, I imagine it will be many, many years before we can finally put the race thing aside. Not just here in America, but the world over.

Pandab
 
Re: The Rise and Fall of Eliot Spitzer. by tucsonmike on 15 March 2008 5:28am
 
Well the latest allegedly is some British real estate magnate was also one of the names on the little list.
That is why I posted this originally. Those who live in glass houses...

As for the race thing, I know it is very old.
 
Re: The Rise and Fall of Eliot Spitzer. by Ellerd on 15 March 2008 6:28am
 
Cori, Elliot Spitzer has been in the papers here in Australia. You wouldn't believe how much American news we get here.
 
Re: The Rise and Fall of Eliot Spitzer. by johnnythemonkey on 15 March 2008 12:16pm
 
Ellerd, that's cos nothing ever happens in Australia. ;)
 
Re: The Rise and Fall of Eliot Spitzer. by mrsthing on 15 March 2008 4:26pm
 
I think part of racism goes way back into our "reptilian" brain that accepts what appears to be similar as a mate or an ally and rejects differences as potentially dangerous. You'd think we would have overcome that now, having put a man on the moon almost 40 years ago and accomplishing other feats of intelligence, but instinct is hard to deny.

I think they make a big deal out of any political figure with any amount of black blood because it would have been impossible until very recently. It's still very unusual. It took a few very brave individuals to pave the path for women and minorities in positions of power, and it's still a hard road to walk.

Sadly, the first time one of them messes up, there'll be all sorts of speculation about their race and gender being a factor in the mess-up, rather than just saying, "This person is human; humans make mistakes, sometimes tragic ones; some humans do the wrong thing deliberately." It's a human condition, not a woman's or a black person's.
 
Re: The Rise and Fall of Eliot Spitzer. by MMMmmm... on 15 March 2008 10:49pm
 
From what I've seen and read, I think Eliot Spitzer's reasons might surprise some people. I think it was a combination of escape - a need for pure pleasure - from all the looming responsibilities of his life, but I also think he was a bit of a Robin Hood/rescue type for prostitutes. They all say he was a really good - big tipper. And his prosecutions against prostitution he would write about how dangerous and harmful it could be to women. Even in giving into the tempation for pleasure without all the daily stuff of life attached (which is why one call girl said men do it), he thought he could be a good guy. I think he ultimately learned the hard way how the daily stuff of life is always still attached.
 
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