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Ukraine by Markysek on 6 September 2007 3:51pm
I have just returned from the trip around Karpatian Ukraine. I'm so enthusiastic of this country. People there are so kind, generous, happy and they are smiling all the time even they are poor.
But one thing I find there really horrible. And it is all the garbage there. Imagine you're sitting near beautiful lake and it is decorated with garbage, mainly plastic bottles. Gross
However the nature there is extremely nice and unspoilt.And everywhere are cows
One evening I was ofcourse drinking a lot of vodka there, with villagers. Next day I felt bad, but it passed over very quickly, because we climbed steep hill with huge backpack.
If you're interested in this country, please let me know and I'll send you a link with photos and information.
Re: Ukraine by suzulu on 7 September 2007 1:27pm
It sounds very interesting, Markysek. Please do send a link with photos, etc.
Re: Ukraine by mwhallan on 10 September 2007 10:40am
Agreed with your comment Marky. I worked in Ukr last year over a period of 7 month in transcarpathia region in town of Uzhgorod. The area has some stunning scenery. The journey from Uzhgorod to Lvov is spectacular and the city a Lvov is a beautiful place. I would recommend anyone to go there. The Ukrainians are welcoming, have no airs and take you as they find you. Vodka is essential part of the culture and seemed to reflect my own scottish one! With farming interests the difference between Ukr and Uk were amazing. The Carpathian region is like a history lesson in agirculture, probably not even 19th Century farming but 18th century farming.
However....... I can't see lots of travellers getting to Ukr yet. The residual and well loved, all employing beaurocracy of border crossings are offputting enough to dissuade the average traveller. I wouldn't have bothered if I hadn't had to go there with my work!!
Other eastern european areas I've been to that I would recommend are in Poland and Slovakia. Gdansk is a lovely city in Poland, really easy and cheap to get to now. In Slovakia please go to Kosice and the surrounding area.
Re: Ukraine by Markysek on 11 September 2007 10:07am
To Suzulu: Because I'm moving to a new flat, I haven't finished the page yet. Is it alright when I send it later?
To mwhallan: Your experinece sounds interesting. Can you tell me more about your work in Ukraine?
I was in Uzhorod and I was so surprised that it is a very beautiful city.
Things you say about the travellers are truth. Only travellers I met there were people from Kiev or Slovacs and mainly Czechs and I am Czech too.But no Americans no Germen no Englishmen etc.
it is really pity. Ukraine is very nice country with beautiful nature and people. I think that western countries should discover more this country.
Re: Ukraine by mwhallan on 11 September 2007 8:59pm
to Markysek: I worked in an electronics company in Uzhgorod, making thousands and thousands of bits for Nokia mobile phones.
I loved the Ukrainians for their love of familly. It was so nice to see doted on children being entertained in the town on Sundays.
These people obviously had much less material wealth than ourselves in the West, but seemed to be happier, certainly fitter looking (hardly any obese Ukrainians around).
However I feel I should balance my praise with some negatives. I'll be brief: Road conditions, ill treatment of dogs, customs officers, too many smokers, excess alcohol consumption......
But Id still go back.... Anyone played Ukrainian Billiards?...fiendishly difficult, except for my pal Volodymyr.
Re: Ukraine by suzulu on 12 September 2007 12:06am
That's OK, Markysek, send it when you have the time.

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