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What makes someone pursue children/child porn? What can we do to change THAT? by canaveralgumby on 7 February 2007 6:22pm
 
No one seems to ask these questions. Long before there was ever an internet, there were child molesters and child porn. What creates this problem in the first place? I'm sincerely grateful for the work of law enforcement in busting the people who sell the materials, and those who try to entrap children. But how to STOP it happening in the first place?
 
Re: What makes someone pursue children/child porn? What can we do to change THAT? by Spursfan on 7 February 2007 6:59pm
 
And in the dim and distant past before there was modern porn there were ALREADY child molesters.

What would you call girls of 12 being forced to marry men 2, 3 or even 4 times their age? Just because it was the 'done thing' doesn't make it right.

Even Shakespeare comments in R & J 'younger than she are happy mothers made' (Juliet is 14 - though it isn't necessarily an exact quote).

Thing I am saying is - don't blame the porn. Although I am not for it myself, you understand.
 
Re: What makes someone pursue children/child porn? What can we do to change THAT? by KikiO on 7 February 2007 7:23pm
 
In this day age, it's very hard to get past the easy access of instant gratification...of any kind. Dishwashers, microwaves, instant everything. People have been conditioned to get what they want when they want it.

Everything that has made our lives easier has also given us far too much "free time" on our hands. And what do we do with that free time? We focus on finding ourselves, expressing ourselves, and basically just being overly self involved.

The lack of hard work it used to take to prepare and clean up 3 meals a day removes the satisfaction of a hard job well done. And when we were finished drying the last dish from the sink, they were too dead tired to do anything put rest our minds and bodies for the next day.

This same example can be used to explain the extreme lack of work ethic, and low self esteem, that plagues our younger generations. Those issues are key to keeping minds healthy and wholesome, and to developing a natural respect and sense of empathy for others.

In days gone by, people didn't have time on their hands to be the perverts they are today, regardless of what unnatural impulses they battled. There was always more wood to chop, floors to be swept, and clothes to be mended. If you wanted to act on your sick impulses, you had to go to extreme lengths to do it.

Also, neighbor doesn't watch after neighbor as they used to. With no one to hold you accountable, you can do whatever you please.

No longer do we teach our children the key to becomming "good" men and "good" women....learning to control your impulses rather than to let them control you. IMO, you can't call yourself an adult....no matter how old you are....until you have mastered the ability to control your impulses instead of being controlled by them.

How do we stop it? We can't. Not until something happens in our world that knocks out all our technology and forces us back into having to work for everything will we see a decline in this horrible act of using children to fulfill the wants of people who have too much time on their hands and as a result have become totally self absorded and focused on their own desires.

All we can do until then is make the punishment for such things FAR more severe and hope it works as a deterent for others who have considered acting on their impulses but have not yet crossed that line.
 
Re: What makes someone pursue children/child porn? What can we do to change THAT? by Spursfan on 7 February 2007 8:34pm
 
I have reread my post and can't help but think it may have given out the wrong message. I was saying that child molestation is not new, NOT that I supported it or child porn.

Also, I take on board what you are saying, KikiO BUT you are really saying that the working classes had no time on their hands because of not having labour saving gadgets. The upper classes did have such gadgets - they were called servants!!
 
Re: What makes someone pursue children/child porn? What can we do to change THAT? by KikiO on 7 February 2007 9:17pm
 
Yes, child molestation and the lust for child pornography has always existed, but it was limited to those who were truly born with the improper desires. I believe we see more of an increase of the troubling issue now because the access to titilating visuals has become so easy that some people build up their tolerance for what would be considered "normal" sexual gratification and are feel driven to seek out the most realistically available source to fulfill their fantasies in order to feel satisfied. Children. Everything "else" you can get easily enough from an agreeable adult. But that's grown old and stale for many and that's why they turn toward children.

You mentioned this issue existing in spite of the internet, so I was simply offering a different reason for why it's more common today than in decades past. Out of boredom.

Idle hands and idle minds will ususally find something to do, and these days it's far more likely to be something unproductive.

And I would guess it was those with servants who DID have idle time on their hands who were more likely to be the perps at that time.

 
Re: What makes someone pursue children/child porn? What can we do to change THAT? by Robron on 7 February 2007 10:23pm
 
I have more time on my hands. I am not looking for child pornography.

The technology may have increased the availability of child pornography. I am not looking for child pornography.

If you consider the desire for child pornography an illness, and one who has said desire an addict, then feel pity for him or her. But do not feel pity for the individual who is not an addict, but simply one who sees a business opportunity in buying and selling child pornography. He or she is the one who should be in prison--not the addict. He or she needs help.
 
Re: What makes someone pursue children/child porn? What can we do to change THAT? by johnnythemonkey on 8 February 2007 12:09am
 
Hey KikiO you just gave me the best laugh in years.
"In days gone by,people did'nt have time on their hands to be the perverts they are today....."
I want to continue but since there has not been one sensible word in this thread so far I will leave it.
 
Re: What makes someone pursue children/child porn? What can we do to change THAT? by Robron on 8 February 2007 12:45am
 
Are you leaving for good? That would make many happy! So long, Monkey.
 
Re: What makes someone pursue children/child porn? What can we do to change THAT? by johnnythemonkey on 8 February 2007 7:34am
 
You are easily pleased Mr.Moron or is that Robron.
 
Re: What makes someone pursue children/child porn? What can we do to change THAT? by Spursfan on 8 February 2007 1:44pm
 
Er.... are you including my contribution as not having one sensible word? I thought a) it did and b) we were friends?

 
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