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Tideland by geordiegirl on 29 May 2008 2:59pm
 
Well I could research this myself of course but it's nicer hearing from people here directly.

What was the theme, was it a good movie, what was Terry Gilliam's best movie? I was very impressed with BRAZIL, myself
 
Re: Tideland by suzulu on 29 May 2008 6:19pm
 
I saw 'Tideland' about 18 months ago at my local cinema when Terry Gilliam came after the film for a Q&A session.

I thought the film was disturbing and macabre but quite beautiful at the same time. I suppose the theme is the innocence of childhood. It is about a 10 or 11 year old girl whose parents are drug addicts and she looks after them. The mother dies and she and her father go to live in her grandmother's abandoned and ramshackle house. It alternates between fantasy (the beautiful part) and reality - there are some really gruesome parts.

I am glad I saw the film but, although very good, I don't think I would go and see it again because it disturbed me and I felt drained when I came out of the cinema.

I haven't seen 'Brazil' so can't compare.
 
Re: Tideland by Lady April on 29 May 2008 7:12pm
 
It is in no comparrison to Brazil at all. Brazil is in a class of it's own for sure. I saw Tideland not knowing what to expect. I was very disturbed as well. I escaped a background of drug use in the extreme some years back and I have actually seen children lose their innocence, not sexually, but rather the state of being, having to take care of their parents who are lost in use. The movie is AMAZING in the detail of the imagination of a child gone awry.

As far as Gilliams BEST movie that is hard for me to put a finger on. They are all of different quality and theme. Although Time Bandits, Brazil and Baron Munchausen are linked by use of cages which I have not gripped yet. Fear and Loathing is in a class of it's own and amazing in itself. The silly, Pythonic Jabberwocky is definately a fave of mine. I can't pick a fave. I own a good portion of his flicks and they sit right next to my other fave weirdo director collection, Tarantino LOL
 
Re: Tideland by MMMmmm... on 29 May 2008 7:15pm
 
I haven't seen them all, but for now I think I would have to say Brazil as well. It was the first time I ever saw a movie that did full complete justice to the brilliance of dreams... (And the unconscious/imagination.) I still remember how much that opening factory/office of information sequence astonished and thrilled me... how I had never seen anything like it in a movie - how it was so amazingly brilliant and perfect to the time... That is still one of my favorite movie sequences ever. (I wish I could see it again on a big screen, for like Koyannisquatsi, and so many others, it was truly made for, or at least most powerful on, the big screen.) I also really loved the Fisher King. I don't know exactly what Terry Gilliam had in mind of course, but for me, it was like Brazil was about the majesty and substratum of the unconscious and it's wounds (in the times), and The Fisher King was one, acute, beautifully profound, becoming-conscious example of healing them. Part of the brilliance of his work is that there are so many angles to all of it, (literally and figuratively), but that is some of what I see.

*I just now read the Wikipedia page on the film, and I recommend it highly. (It's been some time since I've seen the film - now I want to see it again!)
 
Re: Tideland by geordiegirl on 30 May 2008 5:50pm
 
Well, thanks, everyone. That's very interesting.

I do look forward to reading more about Michael in Terry G's films in the next DIARIES.
 
Re: Tideland by mrsthing on 30 May 2008 10:30pm
 
I loved "The Fisher King"--an incredible story, and worth sitting through the violence. It even has a happy ending.

Brazil left me so shaky it took 2 strong drinks to calm me down. The story is so freakin' depressing, but it's the most amazing visual work of art I've ever seen. Just incredible. I don't know that I'll watch it again, but it was an incredible movie and Michael and the actor who played Sam were amazing--"Sam" because he had such a demanding part and carried it off, and Michael because he did his role so convincingly and subtly--I didn't know he could act like that!
 
Re: Tideland by MMMmmm... on 31 May 2008 7:45pm
 
(In Brazil) I really loved Robert De Niro as Harry Tuttle too - he was one of my favorite characters.
 
Re: Tideland by geordiegirl on 1 June 2008 11:21am
 
I think (for me) the thing about BRAZIL was that it was '1984' and a better job was made of conveying that than the 'official' 1984, which was Richard Burton's last film & was carefully made betwween April-June 1984, which is the book's timespan.

The 'Sam' character was Jonathan Pryce, a fine actor, still around, still doing stage & screen work.
 
Re: Tideland by canaveralgumby on 1 June 2008 10:04pm
 
My all-time fav is Brazil, but my other favs that TG directed are "12 Monkeys" and "Fear & Loathing."
 



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