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US Media: Fact v. Fiction by mrsthing on 30 June 2008 8:58pm
 
Here's an article that shows just why this presidential election is going to be difficult. The man interviewed in the article said that the rumors confuse him--that it's hard to ignore things you *know* aren't true when everyone you know is saying them. For instance:

"On the television in his living room, Peterman has watched enough news and campaign advertisements to hear the truth: Sen. Barack Obama, born in Hawaii, is a Christian family man with a track record of public service. But on the Internet, in his grocery store, at his neighbor's house, at his son's auto shop, Peterman has also absorbed another version of the Democratic candidate's background, one that is entirely false: Barack Obama, born in Africa, is a possibly gay Muslim racist who refuses to recite the Pledge of Allegiance."

I'll give the mainstream media credit for presenting mostly facts, although they have muddied the waters a bit by printing news about some of the more virulent rumors. But it's scary how many racist, inflammatory emails are going around the internet that either make people laugh or dupe gullible people into believing them. Either way, they get passed along faster than the common cold; they appear in my inbox fairly regularly, in spite of me asking the senders to take me off their list. And these people vote!

Here's the rest of the article:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25447998/from/ET/
 
Re: US Media: Fact v. Fiction by geordiegirl on 1 July 2008 6:54pm
 
But are the internet voters in the majority, Judy?

I'd like to believe most people still make their own minds up without 'interference'. Don't think internet polls, etc. are very big over here.
 
Re: US Media: Fact v. Fiction by tucsonmike on 1 July 2008 8:25pm
 
I read the article. The Internet will cut both ways in this election. Many of my friends are convinced Obama is a closet Moslem. Again, nothing will shake them of that.
Everyone I know who is voting for McCain is the same way. They see him as the lesser of two evils.
It really will come down to life experience and what you believe.
 
Re: US Media: Fact v. Fiction by mrsthing on 1 July 2008 8:33pm
 
They probably have more motivation to vote, because they think more is at stake. I know plenty of people who won't patronize gas stations or convenience stores if they're run by anyone who might be Muslim, and a friend of mine who is a vocal Obama supporter gets hassled from people she knows all the time. I don't know what they think they're accomplishing: do they really think they can change her mind by being mean to her? But these are not the brightest bulbs in the box.

Judging from the people I know, there are a lot of them. They don't necessarily have access to the internet, but they hear stuff from people who do, and don't know enough to question a trusted friend on the veracity or source of their information. They misinterpret things, too--they see a picture on TV of Obama in Muslim garb and stop listening to the story and assume he's a Muslim terrorist, or they're offended because he doesn't dress like an American, or think he embraces terrorists.

These are also people who are addicted to gossip--they love having the "real" dirt on someone; they don't trust the "media elite" (who the hell ARE the media elite, anyway?) to tell the truth. They believe these friends of friends who saw this anonymous email or internet garbage rather than any media source, except maybe FOX News.

People may make up their own minds, but they're full of misinformation and lack the wherewithal to figure out what the facts are. Maybe my judgement is skewed because I'm in an ignorance pocket that doesn't represent the general population--I sure hope I am.
 
Re: US Media: Fact v. Fiction by johnnythemonkey on 2 July 2008 4:37am
 
I trust what you guys are saying to be the truth and I don't mean to be offensive towards Americans but it sounds like your country is in a mess before the gloves even come off in this election.
Are there any of us who could stand for election (in any country ) and have our lives put under the scrutiny of the modern media and come out squeaky clean ? Not I.
I realise that the media has a job to do and quite rightly bring some of these people's faults to our attention but who owns the media ? Multi-billionaires with their own agenda.
Again, I don't mean to slate you Yanks but you have probably ended up with third rate politicians because of the fact that the guy( or woman ) who may have served you better, once had a brief affair or something similar.
In Europe and I think in France in particular, the Lewinsky ' affair ' would have meant nothing.
On the other side of the coin however, there are politicians in the U.K. who have behaved disgracefully and yet refuse to resign.
I just hope that racism does'nt raise it's ugly head in the U.S election but it seems inevitable. I hope I'm proved wrong.
 
Re: US Media: Fact v. Fiction by tucsonmike on 2 July 2008 5:55am
 
John,
The going after people who have had affairs is a part of American culture that is not the greatest. We have a sort of "you can be tantalized by certain sexual things, but don't get caught!"
What messed up Bill Clinton with the Lewinsky business was lying under oath. If he had admitted it and done the correct "mea culpa's" He would have not had the issues he had.
No question, some who are voting for McCain are doing so because they cannot stomach the thought of a "non-white" President.
Most of our politicians are not the best people for the office.
 
Re: US Media: Fact v. Fiction by johnnythemonkey on 2 July 2008 6:43am
 
I respect what you are saying Mike but I think the nature of your country's attitude to these matters forces politicians to lie and then when they are ' found out ', it's as if they were Satan.

 
Re: US Media: Fact v. Fiction by kazzzz on 2 July 2008 7:18am
 
When our elections were on, the opposition dug up the fact that out now Prime Minister had had heart problems, the implication being that he was not fit to run a country.
He just smiled and said that after his recovery he walked the Kokoda Trail. They opposition shut up after that ;)
 
Re: US Media: Fact v. Fiction by johnnythemonkey on 2 July 2008 7:37am
 
To slightly change tack here........I'm just imagining me running for office !
OMG, I'm not the worst person in the world but to have your every mistake made public ? Makes me shudder !
I should maybe have stayed the good catholic boy my mum wanted me to be ! :)
 
Re: US Media: Fact v. Fiction by tucsonmike on 2 July 2008 7:37pm
 
Certain parts of the country will do that John no matter what.
I am waiting to see who is chosen as VP for each candidate.
 



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