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BBC on the Border. by tucsonmike on 25 March 2009 3:15am
Tonight on BBC America the story was from El Paso how the Border Patrol is working to not just stop drugs coming from Mexico, but guns going from here South.

Re: BBC on the Border. by peripatetically on 25 March 2009 12:13pm
The latter part of your statement, Mike, is probably why Mexico welcomes our help this time. Drugs out = money in. Guns in is somewhat drug related, I'm sure, but could also arm the population too much for other reasons as well. Just a theory.
Re: BBC on the Border. by sighthound on 25 March 2009 4:11pm
Guns are extremely tightly regulated in Mexico. It's almost impossible to buy one legally so almost all of the guns that are being used in the murderous drug wars in Mexico come from the U.S.
Re: BBC on the Border. by tucsonmike on 26 March 2009 11:50am
Well I have to disagree with the cops I met. Legalizing drugs would go a long way toward preventing Mexico from becoming the new Colombia.

Re: BBC on the Border. by sighthound on 26 March 2009 5:50pm
Yes, take the money out of it so there is no incentive to smuggle or to entice people to use them. And we could tax the hell out of the then legal drugs for those who still want to indulge and use the money for treatment programs for people who want to stop. Win, win win....
Re: BBC on the Border. by mrsthing on 26 March 2009 7:55pm
We could tax the dealer's income, too! Let's do it! It'll be like the end of Prohibition all over again.
Re: BBC on the Border. by Lounge Trekker on 27 March 2009 11:07pm
I'm all for taxing the drug trade IF the money were kept in general tax used for all segments of society and not to promote military or para-military (police) operations. Since that is so highly unlikely to happen, NO, I can't support it in Canada.

I am, however, in favour of the de-criminalization of simple posession of non-addictive substances, like marijauna.

The problems caused by addictive drugs could be ameliorated with a registry of users. The user gets lower cost drug and/or placebos and help dealing with all the related issues.

Lounge Pharmacist
Re: BBC on the Border. by kazzzz on 27 March 2009 11:18pm
Pete don't you realise what a terrible drug marijuana is? For you to say it is non addictive is incredibly misinformed.
My ex husband became so addicted to it that he would have to have it to function in any social situation, and couldn't even go to work without using it his first daily useage would be at 5.30 am, the last late into the night. When he was 'off' it he was unbearable with mood swings. He had MANY friends who were in exactly the same state. So PLEASE don't say it's non addictive.
Ultimately it had irreversable effects on his brain and destroyed our family. It had profound financial and social effects on our family. Non addictive? I don't think so.
Re: BBC on the Border. by mrsthing on 27 March 2009 11:31pm
I knew a guy who grew breasts from smoking so much pot. He used to go around shirtless in the summer. He was about a C cup, so it was pretty startling.
Re: BBC on the Border. by Lounge Trekker on 27 March 2009 11:34pm
Hmmm...someone has a smoke he/she is so unlikely to be violent or commit any crime. He might raid the fridge, maybe stay home rather than stomp around town. Anti-social behaviour could be magnified by it. Non-confrontational is a likely state of mind.

I suggest a few publications should you wish to become informed about it:

Ledaine Commission (Canadian Senate) Report:
See Le Dain Commission in the book noted below.

Licit and Illicit Drugs by the publisher of Consumer Reports:

In particular, see the bibliography of reports studied during the Le Dain Commission's research. Sorry, I don't have them handy and don't have the ISBN number. These publications express Canadian general public attitudes toward marijuana. I think the 'public attitudes' may be fed by these reports!

Grass is less harmful than cigarettes, alcohol, maybe even coffee. Definitely less harmful than any drug. Not something for kids, that's for sure. Even in that case, it's the illegality and social attitudes that are most harmful.

If you spend more than $20-30 a month on it...stop sharing it! Hah hah, a person who smoked so much he might grow breasts! Never seen it, but heavy use (of anything) is definitely harmful. I've heard of pot-heads being called 'shrubs'. Moderate consumption is another story.

Moderate Trekker
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