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Should a City Be Allowed to Die? by tucsonmike on 17 April 2011 3:03am
 
In 2005, we discussed Hurricane Katrina and the future of New Orleans. I just finished a book called Triumph of the City by Edward Glaeser. He discussed economics and how cities through history rose and declined.
He spoke about the success of London and New York, but thought President Bush giving New Orleans all that money was not good. He said the peak of New Orleans was 1840 and New Orleans is no longer viable, nor is Detroit.
Comments?
 
Re: Should a City Be Allowed to Die? by suzulu on 17 April 2011 7:22pm
 
Who is this guy Edward Glaeser? What about the poor people of New Orleans who lost their homes and possessions?

No, a city should not be allowed to die.
 
Re: Should a City Be Allowed to Die? by kazzzz on 18 April 2011 10:23am
 
Deffo not. People have built lives , families and homes there.
 
Re: Should a City Be Allowed to Die? by tucsonmike on 20 April 2011 2:05am
 
Sue, Glaeser is a Professor of Urban Economics @ Harvard. If you want to send him annoyed notes, I can get you his email.
 
Re: Should a City Be Allowed to Die? by suzulu on 22 April 2011 12:33pm
 
I had better read his book first, Mike, before I send him annoyed emails!
 
Re: Should a City Be Allowed to Die? by tucsonmike on 23 April 2011 2:16am
 
Sue, probably a good idea lol! I will distill what he said about Detroit and New Orleans.
With Detroit, I am only going on what I read and Detroit's history. I have never been there.
When waterways were important, Detroit was strategic. It was once a very entrepreneurial city. Then the big three auto makers became the only industry. Thousands of uneducated workers, from Europe and the American South made great money on the assembly lines.
The racial tension was there, and then the fuse was lit. Here is the Wikipedia Article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_Detroit_riot

Then Coleman Young became Mayor and made things worse.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coleman_Young

The authors premise is "The climate is awful, why would creative people want to move to Detroit?"

New Orleans. I was there pre-Katrina.

It is not longer the major port it was. Tourism is THE industry.
 
Re: Should a City Be Allowed to Die? by Loretto on 23 April 2011 2:55am
 
I often wondered if we could use the world wide web in an innovative way to bring business and prosperity to places that really needed it. Imagine if major cities became known for being the Fact Checkers of CNN or the Education Innovators of US Education. Almost like hubs of creativity and innovation.
 
Re: Should a City Be Allowed to Die? by tucsonmike on 24 April 2011 12:23am
 
Loretto, you will certainly get some of that. It may already be happening.
 
Re: Should a City Be Allowed to Die? by Loretto on 24 April 2011 5:45pm
 
I know it probably is and I hope it continues to grow and spread to communities that really, really need the prosperity.
 
Re: Should a City Be Allowed to Die? by Lounge Trekker on 24 April 2011 9:52pm
 
This brings up a very serious economic situation for our Western civilization. Economics will determine if a city dies or survives with the current economic model.

To simplify it, the problems we face are caused by human weaknesses, like greed and avarice...not knowing when you have enough. Not sharing surpluses has caused the divide between 'haves' and 'have nots' within one region or nation. Of course, this can also be called generating enough wealth to make your children's lives better.

So we can see this profit motive is not going to go away without near extinction of humans.

I'll stop now before I trumpet my ignorance even further.

Overfed Trekker
 
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