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Anti-US protests by Loretto on 12 September 2012 12:11pm
A preacher told followers that a home made anti-muslim YouTube video was a movie about to be released natiowide in the US on the anniversary of 9/11. That statement, although untrue, caused the current protests in Egypt and Libya.

The US Ambassador in Benghazi has been killed by protesters who burned the consulate..... Three other people have died in that fire. Extremists are frightening, aren't they?
Re: Anti-US protests by johnnyBgood! on 13 September 2012 2:48am
What is an extremist ? Maybe it's those of us who aren't 'extreme' who are the scary ones.
Re: Anti-US protests by Loretto on 13 September 2012 12:09pm
The guy who made the film said he is not anti-muslim. The actress who appeared in the film said she was unaware that it was mocking Mohammed. Do we take away the right to free speech because this film maker put Americans at risk. He says he doesn't feel responsible for the deaths.

The NY Times had a report yesterday saying that the deadly protest in Benghazi looked planned and not a spontaneous reaction to the film.

In Cairo the protests were allegedly spontaneous in reaction to the film.

I wonder if it is a case of when Free Speech effects the US government then it becomes unlawful: Julian Assagnge and Wikileaks for example, and now this film maker putting American's abroad at risk.

So who are the extremists then? The guys utilising free speech and putting peoples' lives at risk? The people who react by killing others?

I'd rather have the right to free speech than live in a place like China where you are imprisioned for speaking your mind.

As for your comment that maybe it is those of us who are not extreme who are the scary ones. Yep, there are those too, Mitt Romney is one.
Re: Anti-US protests by Loretto on 13 September 2012 1:30pm
Just watched the trailer for Innocence of Muslims on youtube. The comments range from being respectful of other religions to kill, kill, kill.

I think there is some similarity here between the release of The Life of Brian and the protests it caused. However, no one burned embassies or took lives because of it.

Isn't it amazing how even though it has been 30+ years since TLOB, instead of the human race moving forward intellectually, we seem to be more intolerant and less analytical. Maybe it was always like this and Freedom of Speech and the internet are fanning the flames of intolerance? I don't know.

Just wanted to add this link to a great article about the film and the protests, there might be more to this than originally thought:

Re: Anti-US protests by johnnyBgood! on 13 September 2012 5:20pm
The Serenity Prayer.
Re: Anti-US protests by Loretto on 14 September 2012 7:16pm
More than 12 countries are now involved in the anti-American protests and the protests are supposedly now including anti-British and anti-German sentiment also.

Anti-American Protests Over Film Expand to More Than a Dozen Countries http://nyti.ms/QKKDqT

Remember the Koran burning Terry Jones in Florida, and now this ejit in California all causing upset. Sure they are as intolerant as any extremist Muslim, to be fair about it.

It amazes me that people like that are soooooo right in their own minds that they do not feel responsible when people die due to their stupid actions.
Re: Anti-US protests by tucsonmike on 14 September 2012 8:09pm
Loretto, I saw your blogpost about this. Where DO you draw the line, between free speech? Was making this movie like shouting fire in a crowded theater?

Re: Anti-US protests by Loretto on 14 September 2012 10:01pm
Absolutely Mike. You would hope that people would use good sense and not incite these protests. I think this movie and Terry Jones act of burning the Koran are hate speech. Deliberately wanting to cause trouble, there is no deeper meaning to it than that. But where do you draw the line? All this then gets tied to censorship, so you'd hope the Muslim community
would know that just because there are a few
Idiots in the US who want to incite protests, not all of as feel that way.
Re: Anti-US protests by johnnyBgood! on 15 September 2012 6:36am
There may only be a few idiots in the USA Loretto but the problem is that they run the country.
Re: Anti-US protests by Loretto on 15 September 2012 2:38pm
Agreed John, but I would take Obama as a second term president before I'd vote for Romney. I think Obama is a deep thinker, but the presidents before him did such wheeling and dealing behind closed doors (thanks for that Wikileaks) that there is some stuff that will never change. The film maker of the anti Muslim movie was arrested today, the coward had his face covered up! That film was hate speech, and he said he is not anti-Muslim! Yeah right!
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