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The South Won the Civil War (and us Yanks, ain't figgered it out yet, LOL)! by tucsonmike on 8 February 2006 2:40am
 
Y'all must think I am mad. (Well, I am, but keep in in the family please).LOL! Gettysburg, Petersburg, etc. I was watching Robert MacNeil's Do You Speak American? He was speaking with comedian Jeff Foxworthy. Variations of the Southern Mountain accent are spreading because of country music, (sorry Matron, ah knew you wouldn't like this).

Actually there are common elements between the English and American Civil Wars. Much of that 17th Century English conflict was planted here.

 
Re: The South Won the Civil War (and us Yanks, ain't figgered it out yet, LOL)! by pandab on 8 February 2006 3:14am
 
Why, of course we won, honey-pie. You just now figuring that out <G>?

Having been born, raised and lived most of my life in Virginia, the Civil War is as much a part of my life as ... well, sausage gravy and grits. Truth be told (and I'm probably going to get blasted by CW buffs for saying this <G>), I've about had it up here with it. The some folks carry on in my neck of the woods you'd think American history ran from 1861 to 1865 then skipped to the present. Call it historical overload, if you will.

Growing up, I had trouble understanding how different other parts of the country were from Virginia. My first exposure to other folks came when I was in the Navy. I swear, it was like them damn Yankees was speaking a whole other language. And nobody but another Southerner understood what "y'all" meant or how to use properly in a sentence!

Pandab

(P.S. "Y'all" is always plural. You NEVER use it when referring to one person. And, Mike, do you know the difference the "it" and "hit" <G>?)
 
Re: The South Won the Civil War (and us Yanks, ain't figgered it out yet, LOL)! by tucsonmike on 8 February 2006 3:25am
 
OK, so I am slow LOL! My first professional library job was in Western Tidewater. The years 1955-1965 weren't discussed. (The Civil Rights Movement) I was living there when Doug Wilder was elected Gov. LOL!
 
Re: The South Won the Civil War (and us Yanks, ain't figgered it out yet, LOL)! by canaveralgumby on 8 February 2006 4:05am
 
The South is still sore, that's for sure! People in the North will vote for a Southern presidential candidate, as we don't feel resentful or threatened, but I think people in the South are still carrying it around on their shoulders.

(Although I live in Florida I am a Jersey Girl. I have Blue State blood!)
 
Re: The South Won the Civil War (and us Yanks, ain't figgered it out yet, LOL)! by tucsonmike on 8 February 2006 2:20pm
 
I've had Europeans tell me they were fascinated by Southern battlefields. Why? It is the one part of the United States they can imagine as much like the many fought over parts of Europe (especially Virginia). Occupation and a defeated army going home.
I saw a statistic that said only 20% of Northerners have a Civil War ancestor. 70% of white Southerners have a Civil War ancestor. There is my liberal friend and former boss Susi Baldwin (if they survived the hurricane) with the pictures of the ancestors in Confederate uniform. Stonewall Jackson was a distant ancestor. This, mind you, is the same woman who was invited to dinner by my other boss at Close Up Karen Spencer, at Uncle Thurgoods house. Justice Thurgood Marshall, that is. In other words, if you are a white Southerner, the Civil War is part of your heritage. Because groups like the Ku Klux Klan use the Confederate battle flag, I've even seen bumper stickers with the flag image that say "Heritage not Hate." The first members of my family arrived in New York forty years after the war ended.
BTW, Southerners refer to the Civil War as the War of Northern Aggression.
 
Re: The South Won the Civil War (and us Yanks, ain't figgered it out yet, LOL)! by canaveralgumby on 8 February 2006 4:54pm
 
The big red "X" on the white field of the Florida state flag IS the "stars and bars", though it's an abstract design. I don't know why people are not more agitated over this. Perhaps most people just don't know.

If you're curious to see it:
http://www.50states.com/flag/flflag.htm

 
Re: The South Won the Civil War (and us Yanks, ain't figgered it out yet, LOL)! by tucsonmike on 8 February 2006 5:25pm
 
I never knew that Cori, but can't say I am suprised. It's ironic, because Florida was only sparsly populated during the Civil War. Once you got south of Tampa and St. Augustine, there was nothing until Key West.
 
Re: The South Won the Civil War (and us Yanks, ain't figgered it out yet, LOL)! by peripatetically on 8 February 2006 7:17pm
 
Uh oh! Dare I tell you who my ancestor is? Hahahahaha. General Robert E. Lee!!! Yep, he was the favorite first cousin of my great great great grandfather. (Mom's side of the family). All the women in my ancestry on her side had first names beginning with an "E" and a middle name of Lee. Mom broke the tradition by naming me Patricia. She just liked it!

However, I am aware that there are many many Lee cousins or I should say CLAIM to be, and also many southern women, related or not, to the General, with a middle name of Lee. I know my heritage goes back to the Am. Revolutionary War and then, of course, to Shropshire, England, where the Lee's are from.

The other side came at the end of the 19th century when the Kaiser was going haywire! hahahaha.

 
Re: The South Won the Civil War (and us Yanks, ain't figgered it out yet, LOL)! by intrepid on 8 February 2006 7:25pm
 
Well, there are worse people to be related to than Robert E. Lee, and I speak from experience.
I had a friend who was a descendant of Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest(sp)who started a club known as the K.K.K.
 
Re: The South Won the Civil War (and us Yanks, ain't figgered it out yet, LOL)! by peripatetically on 8 February 2006 7:30pm
 
I didn't mean to imply that I was ashamed of my relative. I am quite proud of him. He was a decent man and made huge reparations by reunitiing this country after the war. He fought a battle to preserve the southern way of life. Never had a slave in his life and freed those of the family he married into.

I know people can't imagine a good person fighting for the South, but many were decent human beings. Even many Northern folk loved the man. Some think his life just a myth, but how dare say I heard the stories from older relatives and read a lot about him. A gentleman who stuck by his convictions and believed in states' rights, not necessarily slavery.

It's just a shame he chose the wrong side of the fence. He nearly broke his heart making the decsion to side with the South.
 
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