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Early English Colonization of U.S. by tucsonmike on 3 June 2006 4:33pm
One of the sections of the Economist I read faithfully is the book review. Because the Economist is a British publication, I get another view, plus a great way to understand on a laymans level why certain things happen in the world.

I just finished reading a book they reviewed by historical writers Nathaniel Philbrick. It is called Mayflower. It covers the years 1620-1676. It is about the settlement of Massachusetts.

Philbrick has such a great pace, it is like reading a novel. You find among the English, who settled why they came and the little stories that helped to create disaster between Europeans and Native Americans.

Next year will be another busy year in the United States vis a vis English colonization. It is the 400th Anniversary of Colonization of Jamestown
Virginia. I'll be there. I once lived in the area and will be attending a conference in nearby Virginia Beach.

Re: Early English Colonization of U.S. by arty_farty on 3 June 2006 5:12pm
slightly off topic, but have you read the email with another part of my book yet?
Re: Early English Colonization of U.S. by arty_farty on 4 June 2006 1:51pm
actualy that was very off topic. sorry.

tell us more.
Re: Early English Colonization of U.S. by pluimj on 5 June 2006 8:42am
Does the book mention anything about the Tallmans? My ancestors (surname: Tallman) owned the greater part of Marthas Vineyard in the 1660's. He was an indentured servant from Germany and ran rum up and down the colonies. He was quite litigious and there are many court documents about missing swine and beer in our family records.
Re: Early English Colonization of U.S. by pandab on 6 June 2006 4:04am
Tucsonmike - Have you ever read CHESAPEAKE by James Mitchner? It is fiction, so I guess you can't consider it history per se, but it is a fascinating book.

Like all Mitchner's work, it is a prodigious tome but quite readable. It tells the story of how a fictional Chesapeake island was settled, starting with a Native American and ending just after Watergate (if I remember correctly). It traces the history of 4 families and how their fortunes rose and fell over time.

I've read almost all of Mitchner's work, but this was my favorite because it was so close to home. I first read it in the 11th grade. I even wrote an English paper on it that year, comparing and contrasting it with HAWAII. Wow! That brings back memories!

Pluimj - Family history can be riot. My own family comes from Germany, too.

Sometime in the late 1800s (can't remember the year), two brothers came over and settled here in southwest Virginia, one in Montgomery County and one in Floyd County.

No one knows quite what happened, but after a few years, the brothers quarreled and disavowed each other. I say "no one knows". It is more like "no one would admit", and now, the truth is lost. Rumor has it, though, that it involved a woman neither brother ended up with and both blamed the other.

Anyway ... For years and years, the Montgomery branch and the Floyd branch of the family refused to acknowledge each other. These days, it has become something of a family joke. Still, when two people with my last name meet, the first thing they ask is, "Are you from the Montgomery or Floyd clan?" And every member of both clans knows exactly why we ask! :)

Re: Early English Colonization of U.S. by tucsonmike on 6 June 2006 5:12am
That was the one I did not read, now I have to. Pluimj, Marthas Vineyard was not mentioned in the book. I guess you can take it up with Mr. Philbrick, who lives on Nantucket.
Re: Early English Colonization of U.S. by arty_farty on 6 June 2006 10:54am
there once was a man from nantucket...


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