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  The Chatter Box : Blathering On
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Re: Virginia Tech by kazzzz on 17 April 2007 11:51am
We had it too, in Port Arthur, the coverage was 24/7 and I don't think anyone's got over it to this day. It makes it very "real" when it's in front of you day and night. I feel guilty for NOT wanting to watch but on the other hand does it make any difference if I do?
Re: Virginia Tech by Ellerd on 17 April 2007 2:29pm
What an awful event :(

Kazzzz, I don't blame you for not wanting to watch coverage of this tragedy. As more details come to hand, I fear the media is going to get a little more graphic in their coverage :(
Re: Virginia Tech by KMeadows on 17 April 2007 3:49pm
Right now, the media here is milking this event for every little emotional drop it's got, while at the same time saying that those who are pushing for a renewed debate on gun control are vultures. It's pathetic.

As for me, I am always taken aback for just a second when this happens, but then, almost immediately, I'm not really surprised at all. It's tragic, but not shocking. This is what we get when we insist on living in a culture that glorifies guns.

Someone...anyone...please get these guns the hell out of my country.
Re: Virginia Tech by Lounge Trekker on 17 April 2007 5:19pm
Horrible event.

We are taught that it is legally aproved to wage war, to kill people in other countries. We are taught that death is the price to pay for freedom. We are taught to protect what is 'ours'. Paramiltary operations (police) are romanticized and made to seem more exciting. Movies portray the use of guns as a necessary part of life.

Movies never accurately show the aftermath of a shooting. Oh, they show blood, but what about the loss of function of a body part, the lengthy (a lifetime, perhaps) rehabilitation of an injured individual. The irrevocable change to the victim's life and those around him is never talked about.

Gun control might sound good, but it only takes one maniac, one gun and one bullet to change a life. Canada has 'gun control', yet shootings still happen here. Criminal laws - DISCLAIMER: THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE. IF YOU CHOOSE TO CARRY A FIREARM ON CANADIAN SOVERIGN TERRITORY YOU DO SO AT YOUR OWN RISK - are nationwide, there is no criminal distinction between the provinces and territories. Hunting rifles must be registered and must comply with certain design specifications (i.e. single shot, maximum bore size, dimensions).

We are teaching our kids the wrong stuff. It seems the influence movies have is greater than that of parents and schools. Perhaps the entertainment industry (including 'news' programs) should start using a more socially responsible approach to feeding our young minds.

Re: Virginia Tech by Blasi on 18 April 2007 1:57am
But how many lives has gun control saved in Canada? That's the angle I'd view it from.

Incidents such as yesterday's could happen on a daily basis and America would never change their policy on firearms. They'll continue sticking their fingers in their ears and quoting the second amendment mantra style until all the flag burners have gone away.
Re: Virginia Tech by Palin_Lover on 18 April 2007 2:09am
Well, I mean, if gun control isn't the answer, what is? Really, what can be done to prevent another incident like this?
Re: Virginia Tech by tucsonmike on 18 April 2007 4:06am
Mary, I will answer your question first. There was a childrens' psychology expert on with Meredith Viera on Good Morning America. One of the things Dr. Bernstein said was there is no way you can plan for something like this. Yes, you could say "X" sticks out and was always thought of as strange. Will he or wont he go on a rampage? Who knows?

As for gun control I have to concur with Pete. Canada has much stricter laws than we do and still has gun incidents.
I grew up in New York City. Handguns are illegal and getting a permit is difficult. When I was a kid, there were Irish bars all over the city where I could get a gun. My point? When you ban guns, only authorities and the bad guys have them.
There is a flipside to this. In Arizona, I can legally have a gun on my dashboard while driving. My brother-in-law had a good point. Having that easy access can also make people do stupid things. It becomes too easy to have personal justice, especially if you are crossed by someone on a lonely desert road. One of my police procedures books for my writing have that as an example. A road rage incident, where A feels aggrieved and shoots B, then drives away.
Now I argue for the NRA LOL! Do you want a society where only the authorities have guns?
My point? Both arguments pro and con are valid and you have problems no matter what.

Re: Virginia Tech by Chris14 on 18 April 2007 5:45am

Re: Virginia Tech by Ellerd on 18 April 2007 9:08am
Apparently there were warning signs that the shooter wasn't quite right. Professors and classmates were worried about his mental state. Why were these signs ignored? How should we treat people displaying similar symptoms in the future?
Re: Virginia Tech by johnnythemonkey on 18 April 2007 12:14pm
In my newspaper this morning, referring to the gunman:
"So disturbing was his creative writing that the English student had been referred to the university's counselling service."
Ellerd has opened up a new area of debate.What do you do when people display such signs? Here in the U.K,the government is in the process of establishing powers to lock up people with diagnosed personality disorders even if they have committed no offence.Controversial stuff.

I don't feel safe!!
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