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Re: Today's women are wimps. by kazzzz on 14 July 2009 11:11am
Agree 100% Anne.
When I had my first baby, I tried breastfeeding for several weeks, this resulted in a crying underfed baby, mastitis, HUGE stress levels and an extremely upset unhappy baby and Mum. Had similar results when my 2nd daughter was born.
When my 3rd was born I decided not to attempt breastfeeding and put her straight on the bottle. She is a healthy, happy , intelligent little girl who has never looked back.
Each time I was bullied by doctors and midwives to breastfeed, made to feel guilty and a failure. When Ava was born I stuck to my guns (older and wiser and all that) and am very glad I did. Noone's saying breastmilk isn't best but if it's not possible then it's just not possible.
Bethgoth when you are a mother perhaps, with some actual experience, you will be better informed and not try to "change people's minds" on an issue that is a personal choice for a number of very vaild reasons.
Re: Today's women are wimps. by johnnythemonkey on 14 July 2009 1:39pm
How come my mother was able to give birth to six of us ( four at home ) without air and gas or epidurals and breastfeed all of us ? ( no, not all at the same time ! )
Re: Today's women are wimps. by kazzzz on 14 July 2009 2:04pm
Cos she's Scottish?
Re: Today's women are wimps. by ev on 14 July 2009 2:34pm
"Well, of course, we had it tough. We used to 'ave to get up out of shoebox at twelve o'clock at night and lick road clean wit' tongue. We had two bits of cold gravel, worked twenty-four hours a day at mill for sixpence every four years, and when we got home our Dad would slice us in two wit' bread knife."
Re: Today's women are wimps. by Amaia on 14 July 2009 3:06pm
Well, everybody knows Yorkshire people know how to live. And give birth, obviously.
Re: Today's women are wimps. by mrsthing on 14 July 2009 3:42pm
Women were routinely told not to breastfeed in the 40s, 50s, and 60s in America. Now we realize that it's not just the nourishment that's good for the babies, it's the skin-to-skin contact. You can achieve that bottle feeding as well, though. But not every mom can--some don't get enough milk to completely nourish the baby. Some have to go back to work. So thank goodness for formula.

I gave birth with no painkillers at all, because I wanted to experience the whole thing, pain and all. My monthly cramps were so bad all my life that labor seemed like a bad bout of cramps, only it didn't last as long. It was a personal decision. I'm still glad I did it.

And I'm still glad I breastfed my baby. No wasting time heating up bottles in the middle of the night--just get the baby latched on and go back to sleep. It was inconvenient in public because Alexandra hated having anything over her face, so I'd have to find a bathroom or other private place to nurse her. Given the choice, I'd definitely do it again.

Nobody bullied me into it, though it was a hard sell in the Lamaze class.
Re: Today's women are wimps. by Spursfan on 14 July 2009 4:21pm
I made sure with both my children that they were held close whilst being fed.

Bottle sterilising, making up feeds (which was 'harder' than todays 'add the scoop of powder and shake'!) etc were not difficult and just became routine. Also the husband did more than his fair share of making up bottles (from memory we made up about 6 at a time and kept them in the fridge).

The advantage? The convenience!! Plus both my husband and I were able to fully share in the feeding of our babies, and also on occasion Nanna could too. Outings were easy (or at least in the feeding sense!!).

We had an electric bottle warmer, so when our 2nd baby woke about 2 or 3 a.m. each night the husband would go and make toast and coffee whilst I fed the baby. By the time he (husband) had carried the tray of coffee and toast up to bed for us to share Simon was fed, burped and changed and back in his cot. I look back with great nostalgia at those times of eating toast and drinking coffee in the early hours with a happy and satisfied baby asleep in his cot and a happy toddler fast asleep in her own room. [34 years ago - well nearly, it is his birthday next Monday - GASP!!].

Our 1st baby never woke at night except the first night she was home, when WE woke her up!! The midwife laughed and said we could have left her, but we thought we HAD to wake her !!

Re: Today's women are wimps. by fairygirl48 on 14 July 2009 5:40pm
Yikes! Kudos to the moms for doing all that for your kids--even though I've always known that I don't want children other than my golden retriever, you have my admiration.
Re: Today's women are wimps. by kazzzz on 15 July 2009 8:27am
Making a bottle for a baby takes about as much effort as making a cup of coffee. My kids are definately worth that effort.

May I add that when Kathryn was born I didn't take so much as an aspirin. Had an epidural with Ava ( she was c section) and had pethadine and gas with Jess (33 hour labour).
You do what you have to do. Each time it's different.
Re: Today's women are wimps. by Spursfan on 15 July 2009 9:02am
With Genevieve, I had a spinal anaesthetic. When I had her, it was the 'in thing' to induce mothers - not because they were late or anything (she was born the day after she was due), but to quicken the labour when you were already in it. All well and good but it intensifies the pain. She was born about 6 hours after I began labour.

Not that I complained, you just got on with it. In fact I met another 18/19 year old the next morning in the nursery who said that she had been told while in labour that there was another girl the same age (i.e. me) who had been really good. Ouch!

And then I had a retained placenta but thats another story!!

With Simon I can't remember what pain relief - not gas and air though for some reason.

This is a lovely thread isn't it hahaha!


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