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Re: US Elections -- non-US views? by intrepid on 5 October 2004 4:25pm
Since I started living abroad, Ive come to think that what my fellow citizens in the US really, really need is a current events show which showcases political views from around the world. Contrary to the image, most Americans, I think, are curious and interested in knowing what the rest of the world thinks of us.
Re: US Elections -- non-US views? by sminobe on 6 October 2004 12:27am
Yes, well, my point is that since the "liberally-biased media" doesn't really exist, what we *won't* get is a current events show which showcases political views from around the world (unless it's only the *acceptible* views) or what the rest of the world thinks of us (unless it's only the *good* opinions). I'm pretty sure, too, that most Americans would want to know, regardless of whether it's good news/bad news.

Then again, there were all those boobs who protested France's not supporting our (stupid/illegal/immoral/etc) invasion of Iraq by flushing French wine down the toilet...
Re: US Elections -- non-US views? by Marianne on 6 October 2004 2:36am

don't forget the ridiculous "freedom fries" thing!

Oy vay!
Re: US Elections -- non-US views? by JK on 6 October 2004 2:37am
IMO, 'Fahrenheit 911' should be screened in every household in America the night prior to the election. We'll see how many people vote for Bush then. Not that it would make a shred of difference anyway. Even if Bush received zero votes, he'd still be elected such is the 'system'.

Regarding American news media, Fox News is arguably the world's greatest propaganda machine and it's no surprise that your average American is a little less than au fait with the global scene with such distorted twaddle being fed to them. If you have satellite TV, I'd suggest the BBC as a comprehensive, unbiased third party media source.
Re: US Elections -- non-US views? by JK on 6 October 2004 3:04am
Oooops. Sodding double posts.
Re: US Elections -- non-US views? by sminobe on 6 October 2004 4:24am
Just go to any bookstore & look at the sheer number of books out that are critical of this administration's policies -- from Left, Right & Center. And the list of people who have resigned *from this administration* in protest is staggering (see www.missouri.edu/~quinnl/news/bodies.html)! It just boggles my mind that anyone can support The Shrub! I guess all those scientists, politicians, philosophers, military-types, etc are all *WRONG*...
Re: US Elections -- non-US views? by Helen on 6 October 2004 4:04pm
I hope Bush doesn't buy this election, too.
JK--I totally agree with you about Fox news. It's unbelievable, literally.
Re: US Elections -- non-US views? by sminobe on 6 October 2004 6:28pm
It's amazing how forgiving people are. Those who support the Enron/Halliburton ticket are willing to overlook being lied to over & over & over again. I'm sure they'll ignore all these "facts" as left-wing conspiracies:

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&;storyID=6422548 (CIA Report Finds No Conclusive Zarqawi-Saddam Link)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3715396.stm (Rumsfeld questions Saddam-Bin Laden link)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3718150.stm (Report concludes no WMD in Iraq -- I love the comment on "Thought Crime"!)

Meanwhile, the body count keeps going up: 1,205 coalition deaths (1,066 Americans, 68 Britons, 6 Bulgarians, 1 Dane, 2 Dutch, 1 Estonian, 1 Hungarian, 19 Italians, 1 Latvian, 13 Poles, 1 Salvadoran, 3 Slovaks, 11 Spaniards, 2 Thai, 9 Ukrainians). Does not include civilians on either side. I think we're catching up to Saddam's record on civilians & with American ingenuity & industriousness, we'll pass it, by God!

Mission Accomplished? Yah, riiiiiight...

Re: US Elections -- non-US views? by canaveralgumby on 7 October 2004 6:49pm
Since I haven't been here in so long, I'll jump right into this incendiary topic with an inflammatory statement.

It's the Evangelicals, and nutjobs who obsess over the issues of the "unborn" (abortion/stem cell research) who got this president elected. And please notice I have seperated the two distinct and different groups. Evangelicals, I have absolutely nothing against even though I do not agree with their take on life.

HOWEVER, these people (a lot of them female, BTW) who make completely fictitious, vulgar and obscene poster boards of alleged aborted fetuses and march them around in front of elementary schools, these people who say they're holding a Halloween haunted house for the kiddies and then and then it turns out to be their paranoid-fantasy graphic representation of an abortion clinic and a human sacrifice ritual (yeah, I know that goes on all the time in MY neighborhood! All of us non-Christian non-churchgoing people, we just LOVE to worship Satan and drink

I'd LIKE to start with the ones in my town, but my damned inconvenient belief that all people have freedom of speech and the right to raise their children as they choose precludes me...

They have co-opted the Republican party, but WHAT these people fail to notice is, by and large, once elected, their Republican representatives don't take very much action at all to overturn pro-choice or right-to-privacy laws. These Republican politicians just SAY they will, while they're campaigning, to get the votes. These corporate rapists of the earth don't really give a damn about these issues! They just want to get in.

The Democratics have never been willing to do the same, even at the cost of elections. I'm sorry but I don't see the "TWO evils" everyone talks about.

Throughout most of its history, the Republican party was progressive. Lincoln started it! Socially, they were FOR desegregation, and for LESS intrusion by government into private lives. It was around Reagan that things got ugly.

Do you realize that we could have Republican President JOHN MCCAIN right now, except that he wouldn't tow the "kids should pray in school" party line?

I'm a little faklempt. - Cori
Re: US Elections -- non-US views? by Helen on 7 October 2004 6:51pm
Pat Buchanan ran for Prez too.

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