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Fox Hunting by Spursfan on 2 May 2007 7:47pm
I heard today on TalkSport that David Cameron had said recently that if elected to government, he would lift the ban on fox hunting.

I urge everyone in the UK to boycott the Conservatives at the next General Election to avoid this catastrophy.

This is not a political thread, but a plea to stop the morons who hunt foxes and other live animals.
Re: Fox Hunting by johnnythemonkey on 2 May 2007 8:05pm
" The unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable." Oscar Wilde.
Re: Fox Hunting by Spursfan on 2 May 2007 8:13pm
Yes exactly - I love Oscar Wilde (I have a t-shirt with the quote 'I have nothing to declare but my genius').

Btw I have a friend who hunts but I am too polite to say anything - but I don't enthuse either when she talks about it to us (we know her husband better as we were in the same BSAC club). Believe it or not she is a Sister in the children's ward at the local hospital, and is lovely!! Yet she used to love galloping across the countryside on her horse and ripping foxes to shreds.


If I was healthier (and braver!) I would have been a hunt saboteur.
Re: Fox Hunting by kazzzz on 3 May 2007 1:05pm
We have regular bounties on foxes here, it's about $50 for a tail (they're vermin here, introduced and kill the native wildlife).
I think they're beautiful though.
Re: Fox Hunting by arty_farty on 3 May 2007 1:07pm
we should introduce politican hunting, imagine john prescott being chased by a horde of barking dogs
Re: Fox Hunting by sighthound on 3 May 2007 7:05pm
While foxes are beautiful and I enjoy watching them, they are quite vicious. I had one get into my hen house once and the carnage was unbelievable. Not a hen was left alive and only one was eaten. I've not been quite so fond of them ever since.
Re: Fox Hunting by Spursfan on 3 May 2007 7:53pm
Fox hunting is also vicious and abominable.

I am not a 'softie' when it comes to animals (well, ok, maybe Tosun!!) - but fox hunting really does get to me!

The Hunts (or should I spell that with a c instead of an h?!!) saw it (and some still do illegally) as a spiffing day out in the countryside, and dismiss anyone who disagree with them as townies who know nothing of country life. I happen to live in an extremely small, country village, therefore I am not a townie.

Red jackets, stirrup cup before they set out, hunting horns, big horses and hooray henrys and sloanes.

It is not 'sport' - the fox has little or no chance, despite what they say.

Re: Fox Hunting by Lounge Trekker on 3 May 2007 9:30pm
I'm a Canadian, 'eh? Some guys, after running their chainsaw to cut down a few trees (or whatever they do for work), get in their 3/4 ton diesel 4x4's and drive up and down the bush roads. If they see a deer they stop, pull out a high-powered rifle with a scope, and try to kill it.

Been there, done that, really enjoyed the meat provided by one of God's beautiful creatures. Tan the hide, use the leather for numerous functions, waste not a scrap of material I know how to use.

I've thought of it recently, but...what a lot of work to culminate in pulling the trigger on a lovely creature. Oh, there are lots of them, I just don't want to shoot them.

And I'm told even the fat foxes are bony and tough.

Lounge Treehugger
Re: Fox Hunting by sighthound on 3 May 2007 9:40pm
Playing the devil's advocate here... Fox kill livestock and, to protect their animals, farmers are going to kill the fox (and other animals classified as "vermin") by other means when hounds are not available to them. When I had my farm in Oregon, the neighboring farmers would put out poison bait or shoot them which would lead to slow agonizing deaths. A kill by a good hound results in instant death, much more merciful than other means.

Meaning no disrespect, Anne, but I find the arguments against hunting in the UK always go on about the red coats, stirrup cups and all the other upper class accouterments which leads me to think that there is also a lot of (at least unconscious) class warfare at work. It is the opposite here in the U.S. where hunting is championed mainly by the working and middle classes.
Re: Fox Hunting by Spursfan on 3 May 2007 10:05pm
It is not just the fact that it is (mainly) an upperclass thing (I don't think 'sport' is the correct term), Geraldine. I was using those items to explain what a fox hunt is like in England.

I think people bang on about the red coats etc NOT because of class warfare - but to try and show the attitude of those who hunt. They DON'T hunt because it rids the country of so-called vermin. They DON'T hunt because it is more humane (as if!!). They DO hunt because they enjoy it.

It is - unfortunately - not just the uperclass twits who hunt - people who have horses seem to think it a good way to exercise their horses (I heard this excuse on the radio yesterday!!). Why they can't just take them out for a canter or gallop is beyond me.

No disrespect meant, Geraldine, but the 'Countryside Alliance' have already used your argument about 'a quick death' but this has been challenged by people who have witnessed the "not very quick but in fact painful and drawn out" death of a hunted fox.

And we are not talking just about foxes here (though that was the title of my thread). ALL hunting to hounds is supposed to be banned in this country and so it should stay.


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