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Building a Fence? (The U.S. Mexico Border). by tucsonmike on 20 August 2007 2:08am
 
There are some who want to build a fence along our 2000 mile border. Only 20 billion dollars, but who's counting.

I thought of this, because I was watching Anthony Bourdain's show on Travel Channel and he was doing the border.

Almost no one who actually LIVES on the border thinks it is a good idea. We are so intermeshed you can no longer separate us.

I also thought of this, because of the DMZ in Korea and the former Berlin Wall. Those separate(d) folks of the same ethnic and cultural group.
 
Re: Building a Fence? (The U.S. Mexico Border). by sighthound on 20 August 2007 2:20am
 
That's such a great Bourdain episode - it's nominally about food but is really about SO much more.

How can we spend 20 billion (you really believe that? I'd guess five to ten to twenty times more) on a barrier to keep out brown people who we need here to pick our crops when our unmaintained bridges are falling down and killing people and strangling cities?

You'll notice there's no similar proposal for fortifying the US/Canadian border.
 
Re: Building a Fence? (The U.S. Mexico Border). by George on 21 August 2007 4:13am
 
It will never be built. I'm 100% in favor of securing our borders, but there is more than enough technology available already in place. A wall would be nothing more than a symbol, a bad one. The people who come here from Mexico and other Latin American countries are "welcomed" with jobs, education, and a friendly healthcare system. Anyone who can't accept this, is just being foolish.

This is a "straw dog" political issue that has no real substance.
 
Re: Building a Fence? (The U.S. Mexico Border). by arty_farty on 21 August 2007 2:44pm
 
a border wall is a realy stupid idea, just look at the maginot line that was built at the franco-german border between the wars and see what effect that had, the germans just went round it through holland and belgium.

those that don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
 
Re: Building a Fence? (The U.S. Mexico Border). by tucsonmike on 21 August 2007 3:18pm
 
It is so true. The people who want this wall do not understand the realities. I agree with George (long time, no see). It will not fly in the end.
 
Re: Building a Fence? (The U.S. Mexico Border). by sighthound on 21 August 2007 7:21pm
 
I hope you're right. If we really want to be more secure, we should be spending a lot more money at our ports, scanning all the cargo containers that come in. The lax security at our ports is outrageous (but then we can't do anything that will even slightly inconvenience global commerce, can we; that just irritates big campaign contributors.)
 
Re: Building a Fence? (The U.S. Mexico Border). by Palin_Lover on 22 August 2007 3:04am
 
Personally I don't think a fence would solve the problem.
 
Re: Building a Fence? (The U.S. Mexico Border). by Melvin Coznowski on 23 August 2007 4:06pm
 
As I see it, the US is going about the problem all wrong. Rather than simply keep people out via a fence or other obstruction, help Mexico improve their economy to the point where people won't escape (it's not uncommon for people to earn as little as $5 per day in Mexico, when they can earn as much as $15 per hour in the US).

The problem with that is the culture of corruption in Mexico is so entrenched and deeply ingrained, that it would be very difficult to impossible to change.

Any other solutions, such as a fence, are virtually doomed to failure, since it's akin to putting a Band-Aid on an amputation.
 
Re: Building a Fence? (The U.S. Mexico Border). by Palin_Lover on 25 August 2007 3:02am
 
You've got a really good point there, Melvin. Helping the economy so they wouldn't need to come here is, I think, a very very good idea.
 



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