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  The Chatter Box : Blathering On
Border Fence by tucsonmike on 17 February 2009 12:53pm
Sunday morning CNN on John King's show State of the Union, he was doing the show from Phoenix, but took a side trip to Yuma, where the Border Patrol gave him a tour.

The number of illegals coming in is way down, but having said that, is it because the fence is working, or because Mexicans are returning home and telling people not to come here! Therefore, the Border Patrol should not be counting its chickens quite yet.
Re: Border Fence by peripatetically on 17 February 2009 1:27pm
It won't be right until none of them come. I don't have anything against Mexicans coming legally. That's great if they do, work hard at any job, especially those many Americans don't want, go home for a while to take care of their families and return. That's how it should be. But for them to just come without the legal papers is totally wrong. We aren't a host for parasites. What part of the word "illegal" don't people understand ? So many think it's fine and dandy to let them in regardless because they are in need of feeding their families. So? Just do it legally. How darn hard is that? Take your turn in line and it will happen. Or take a stand against the Mexican government which is a great deal part of the problem.
Re: Border Fence by tucsonmike on 18 February 2009 1:00pm
The question is, will our economic times get bad enough so Americans will HAVE to take those jobs? I saw on BBC it is happening in Spain, where Spaniards are working on farms again because of the economy.

Of course they should come legally, Patty. I live with this! I've met ranchers who have to go armed on their ranches, because they don't know who will greet them. I've stopped taking drives on backroads toward the border.

This weeks Tucson Weekly had an article about Nogales, Arizona. The violence from Nogales, Sonora is spilling over.

Mexican President Felipe Calderon is fighting the drug gangs, but it is a hard fight where he needs the Mexican Army. Local police end up joining the drug gangs or quitting.

Maybe this summer, we wont find as many bodies in the desert of the ones who tried to cross and died.

No one really wanted this issue solved. People wanted their cheap workers, so the government paid lip service to tightening security.
Re: Border Fence by peripatetically on 18 February 2009 1:38pm
Pathetic, isn't it?
Re: Border Fence by mrsthing on 19 February 2009 2:33am
But cheap laborers are willing to do jobs that violate labor laws and work safety laws--if Americans start taking those jobs, they'll demand reform, increasing the cost of labor and the end cost of the product to the consumer. As right as that may be, you can bet most people will b*tch and moan about it--probably the same ones who b*tched and moaned about the illegal aliens.
Re: Border Fence by Lounge Trekker on 19 February 2009 3:41am
Fly there, **** their women, ***** their beer, **** the sheets in their hotels, *** their food, **** in their toilets, but G*** Ch***! don't let them come here!

Lounge Tourist
Re: Border Fence by Blairhoyle on 19 February 2009 12:02pm
the UK has seen a number of Poles heading back home due to the downturn in jobs in the labour sector, plus there will be building jobs becoming available in Poland as they are hosting the next Euro Championships in 2012 and new stadiums have to be built.

Even Indian and Chinese are struggling in the food business.

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