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Ultimate Book of Lists by eroomnala on 11 December 2002 1:30am
Just came across a book that the Python's probably wish they'd had when they were writing the Cheeseshop sketch.
Incidentally was it a Chapman/Cleese sketch acted out by Cleese/Palin? It certainly sounds like one of their notorious thesaurus sketches.
Anyway the book is called
People, Places & Things: the Ultimate Book of List edited by Michael Cader published by Macmillan in 2001 and on pages 262-279 there is an alphabetical list of all the cheeses you can think of from
Abertam - a hard cheese with a rather strong flavour made from Sheep's milk in the region of Carlsbad, Bohemia
Ziger - (Zieger) the German name for whey cheese, known in the US and Italy as Ricotta
Sadly Venezuelan Beaver Cheese is not on the list.
On the page before it there is a list of Confectionery including Pralines which reminds me of the infamous Whizzo Quality Assortment sketch.
Michael included the Cheeseshop sketch in his Pocketful of Python book where he collected his favourite Python pieces.
Re: Ultimate Book of Lists by Rusted on 11 December 2002 6:45am
LOL! That's great! I came upon Camembert in the dictionary the other day and had to chuckle.

That was indeed a Cleese/Chapman sketch, if I remember correctly. There were some great Cleese/Chapman bits acted out by Cleese/Palin!

Which reminds me, watching "Brazil" today (wow, I understand what you guys meant now!), it struck me that Michael appears to be the Python member to have acted in/co-wrote more projects with another Python member (outside of Python projects) than any other member of the group. (e.g. Time Bandits, Jabberwocky, Brazil, A Wish Called Wanda, Fierce Creatures, etc etc). Is this just because of his charming personality, or...? ;O)

Re: Ultimate Book of Lists by Helen on 11 December 2002 5:00pm
I have often wondered what kind of cheese ol' Cleesy was talking about, and if they all existed. The Ven. Beaver Cheese-- I kinda figured that was fictional. But ya never know, do you? There are some nasty cheeses out there. I have heard that Limburger is relentlessly horrid. Smelly. Big time.
What do they say about Limburger?
Just out of curiousity.
Re: Ultimate Book of Lists by eroomnala on 11 December 2002 11:00pm
a semisoft, yellow cow's milk cheese with a strong flavour and aroma. Limburger was first made in Belgium, and is now made all over the world, particularly in Germany, Austria and the United States.
I remember an old Abbott and Costello movie where Costello worked in a shop and he had to get a customer some Limburger which was under a glass and everytime he lifted up the glass he would start fainting from the smell so after trying this several times he eventually got a gas mask to remove the glass cover and cut a piece for the customer.
Re: Ultimate Book of Lists by eroomnala on 11 December 2002 11:03pm
I think Mike has acted in more post-Python projects by other members of the team because he is the most versatile actor in all the Pythons. He is equally adept at doing comedy and playing villains like his character in Brazil and how different could two people be then his characters in A Fish Called Wanda and Fierce Creatures?
Re: Ultimate Book of Lists by Rusted on 12 December 2002 7:23am
Very true, Michael is a very versatile actor - I can see what you mean.

I was personally freaked out by Michael's character in "Brazil" because it was Michael playing it. It's so different than any other character he's done. But he pulled it off magnificantly well! I read somewhere that Terry G said it worked with Michael because they could play off MP's natural affability - it made the character likable yet morally corrupt.

I love both of Michael's characters in Wanda and Fierce Creatures. You just have to feel sympathetic for both of the poor fellas. I had to laugh when I saw Fierce Creatures. "What? Michael play a character that talks a lot?? How unlike him!" ;O)


Re: Ultimate Book of Lists by ellenpc on 13 December 2002 12:44am
Must admit, Michael's hair length has never been an issue ( I don't generally drool over Sir Galahads') untill "Wanda". That tight perm had me running for cover!!

"Ye Gods!!" Whoever talked him into that one should be disciplined with a wet piece of celery or any other suitably robust vegetable.
Re: Ultimate Book of Lists by Rusted on 13 December 2002 7:17am
I don't know, I quite liked "Sir Galahad's" long hair. :O)

Hey now! Ellen's stole my "ye gods!"! LOL! Alright, alright, I'll let it pass. After all, it was an apt description for the situation. ;O)

Re: Ultimate Book of Lists by ellenpc on 13 December 2002 1:33pm
"Oops!" Mary,

Sorry. (Head hanging low :-{ )

I'll go and stand in the corner, but please don't get the knobbly turnip, anything but the knobbly turnip.........
Re: Ultimate Book of Lists by Dianne on 14 December 2002 6:43am
The perm Michael had for 'Wanda' may have been ghastly, but don't you think it went with the character he played. Same goes for 'American Friends'. Did he have his hair permed for that as well, or was he wearing a wig? The muttonchops and style of hair went perfectly with the film and made his character look more real.

Not like some of the old movies made in the 1930's and 1940's and how some of the films that were set in 18th or 19th century did not look quite so real because the actors had hairstyles from the 1930's and 1940's. Everything else was just right. Nowadays they try and make it as realistic as possible. Which sometimes means putting up with a horrible perm. :-)
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