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PAKISTAN by BLACKFRIARS on 3 October 2004 9:06pm
I am looking to travel to Islamabad and Lahore in 3 months time (to travel on to Amritsar & Calcutta and..further afield....)but am having difficulty in finding anyone who has visited very recently and also the lack of travel book information. Can anyone help please?
Re: PAKISTAN by Godfather on 4 October 2004 4:55am

The route you're looking at, is no problem. Local and traveller traffic is frequent between the Punjab travel line of Islamabad/RawalPindi-Lahore-Wagah/Kodari border-Amritsar (India). Buses are frequent (along with Honda small minibuses) going on that route.

The best travel book for Pakistan is the Footprints one. It was last updated in 1999,but is the better of the two (the other one is Lonely Planet's one) . You can find it on Amazon. The LP book is not very good. Footprints is way ahead because it just has so much cultural information. My most recent trip to Pakistan was 2003, and i can tell you that Footprints book is way out of date in terms of accomodation and bus station info. So you'll just be taking it along for occasional reference. Locals give you all the info you need. You dont really need a guidebook if you're just passing through Pakistan on the route you mentioned though.

Good luck
Re: PAKISTAN by abskii on 12 October 2004 12:50am
Blackfriars>> have you been before?? I'd like to hear about your experiences.
I recently visited, but did not have the ...um... 'experience' of public transport. I feel that it may have been a little tricky for me, as in the market local to where I stayed, I seemed to attract a lot of attention. I enjoyed it (oooh, the vanity!), just passing through. but had I been confined on a hot sweaty bus with a dozen yardies rubbing their palms in my direction, I'd have got a little freaked!!!

Can I ask: are you male or female?? (there is specific advice for either)

Godfater>> do you know of any good english/urdu phrasebooks? the only ones I can find only involve written urdu, and for now I just want to learn to speak a little beyond ''no thankyou, I am full''
Re: PAKISTAN by kimbo on 17 October 2004 8:46pm
i for one, am glad Mike Palin has at last put something on the map about Pakistan....so many wonderful places to see...public transport is fine if you want real adventure, only keeping in mind sensitivity to dress and culture....one of the best travel guides is Hilary Shaw's Pakistan Handbook...maybe a little out of date price wise, but excellent non the less.
Re: PAKISTAN by kimbo on 17 October 2004 8:47pm
later in the week will give you name of urdu phrase book
remembering a few phases like "Inshallah" (God willing) will help a lot and gain you respect.
Re: PAKISTAN by kimbo on 17 October 2004 8:50pm
Islamabad has some really good hotels and guest houses, bargain them down, and you could get to stay at the Serena or Marriot for the price of a b&b in England. go up to Murree for the the "blackpool" like feel and then to Nathiagali for the smell of the pines
Re: PAKISTAN by SupremeBeing on 17 October 2004 8:51pm
I myself have never been to Pakistan, and correct me if I am wrong, but I've always assumed Arabic was spoken there.
Re: PAKISTAN by kimbo on 17 October 2004 9:17pm
Supreme Being.
NO, URDU is spoken all over Pakistan, but there are other regional languages...Punjabi in Lahore/Islamabad etc. Pushto in the North West Frontier Province. but Urdu is the common language
Re: PAKISTAN by kimbo on 17 October 2004 9:19pm
although winter is the best time to visit Pakistan for westerners not used to the hot weather, you cannot go to the northern areas, which are snowbound until May
Re: PAKISTAN by kimbo on 17 October 2004 9:20pm
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