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Austria/Hungary (possibly Slovakia) tips by Adopted Tyke on 17 May 2006 2:16am
 
Hello everyone. Im new here and am rather recently infected with the travelling bug. I am about to embark on a trip to Salzburg-Vienna-(possibly Bratislava)-Budapest and was wondering if anybody had any tips I ought to know about these places.
Also is there anywhere near enough to Salzburg, in Southern Germany, I could visit for a day trip.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks:)
 
Re: Austria/Hungary (possibly Slovakia) tips by Adopted Tyke on 17 May 2006 2:18am
 
Hello everyone. Im new here and am rather recently infected with the travellinh bug. I am about to embark on a trip to Salzburg-Austria-(possibly Bratislava)-Budapest and was wondering if anybnody had any tips I ought to know about these places.
Also is there anywhere near enough to Salzburg in Southern Germany I could visit for a day trip.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks:)
 
Re: Austria/Hungary (possibly Slovakia) tips by Tauriel on 17 May 2006 11:17am
 
Actually, Salzburg is in Austria. ;-)

I can't tell you much about Austria or Hungary (except that Budapest is a beautiful city; there's in fact a little joke we have here - "What are the two most beautiful cities in Slovakia? Vienna and Budapest" :-P ). So definitely visit Vienna and Budapest.

Bratislava, hmm, well, I admit, I'm a bit biased and I don't like Bratislava too much. I don't find it as beautiful as, say, Prague. But still, there ARE places to see there - the Castle (which looks a bit like a cupboard turned upside down ;-) ); St. Martin's cathedral, which used to be the place of coronation of hungarian kings and queens; Slovak National Gallery; and the ruins of Devin Castle (on the meeting of rivers Danube and Moravia) from 9th century.

If you have enough time and would venture beyond Bratislava, I strongly recommend the lovely historical town of Trencin with its castle; Piestany, the most famous Slovak spas; and also Bojnice, the most beautiful castle in Slovakia (a little bit haunted, of course).

Good luck with your trip! :-)
 
Re: Austria/Hungary (possibly Slovakia) tips by peripatetically on 17 May 2006 3:07pm
 
Actually, Munich is a day trip from Salzburg. There's an awful lot to see, so I know you'd really want much more time though. I'll be honest... anywhere in southrn Germany would be great. Everything is so picturesque.

One close place would be Chiemsee in Prien. It's a gorgeous lake with sailboats and an island, and you can sail there to see Schloss Herrenchiemsee, one of Crazy King Ludwig's castles. It's a gorgeous little trip, very peaceful and quiet too. You can find a nice little restaurant in Prien on the western shore. Sometimes there are candlelight concerts at the castle, but inquire for details. Still, it's a beautiful trip. You walk thorugh a small beautiful sylvan forest to reach the castle.

Your other option is the spectacular Berchtesgaden, Hitler's Eagle's Nest in Kehlstein (1885 meters high). He built this retreat atop a pinnacle overlooking one of the most gorgeous places you'd ever wish to see. Sometimes it is foggy up there and blocks the view, but it's worth taking a chance. If it's too foggy or raining, stay in the little town below and explore. But to reach the top, you travel hairpins turns to a certain point , then you must walk through a cool damp tunnel to a magnificent elevator in which Hitler rode himself. You travel up through the mountain to reach a tea room /restaurant where you can dine and enjoy the magnificent view. Once up there, you can,and MUST, walk out to a very narrow point. It's possible to see Austria's peaks if it's a clear day. There is a large cross and alms box part of the way to the edge of the mountain. It's stoney, the air is relatively thin, and it's narrow, so watch your step, take a jacket and wear good walking shoes. Go slowly becasue you will definatey feel a difference at that altitude and need to be careful where you take your steps.

You will see miles around while viewing a spectacular Bavarian countryside and high peaks everywhere. I have done this at least 3 times. Each has been a dream. Do not be surprised if your day begins as a cold windy foggy day, but soon clouds clear and it is fine, warm bright and sunny.

Hitler blasted through this mountain rock during the war to make this a retreat to meet with officers and his woman, Eva Braun. It is said that he was afraid of heights so only visited there one time. One thing he was right about-----BEAUTY! You'll not regret going there.
 
Re: Austria/Hungary (possibly Slovakia) tips by peripatetically on 17 May 2006 3:16pm
 
I've also been to Budapest a couple times and loved it. It's farther than Germany though.

Be sure to visit Fisherman's Bastian and St. Matthais Church, next to it. From the former, you overlook the river, parliament and the Chain Bridge. A little walk around the Buda side (the hilly side) is very enjoyable with it's old buildings and historic sites. There's an extremely small and very old ice cream shop on a side street up there too.

You also might like to visit Hero's Square on the Pest side and St. Stephen's Basilica. The oldest konditorie in Budapest takes up a large portion of a block in the city too and wrth a try. Stop for a tea and pastry inside or at one of the outdoor tables.

It might be fun to take a hydrofoil too, to a small village on the Danube, called Stzetendre (sp.) it's an artsy colony and lots of fun and interesting.

 
Re: Austria/Hungary (possibly Slovakia) tips by Anita_Petho on 17 May 2006 6:48pm
 
Hey, Patty, you did a great job, I couldn’t write more about Budapest. (especially the small and old ice cream shop)
The other town is written right Szentendre, and one of my favourite towns. It’s the painters town, many Hungarian artists lived and live here. In Szentendre there are several good restaurants, with traditional Hungarian cuisine.

Other interesting places in the Danube Bend might be Esztergom, with a monumental Basilica, or Visegrad: the remains of a Renaissance palace, and the citadel, from where there is a wonderful view over the Danube Bend.

At the Austrian-Hungarian border there are two nice little towns, which I would mention. Sopron, it’s called as Civitas Fidelissima, what means “the most faithful town”. After the lost World War I, they had the chance to vote, do they want to be a part of Austria or Hungary, and the result… what do you mean? *winks*
Near to Sopron, (on the Austrian site) is the village, where Ferenc Liszt was born, namely: Raiding. (it’s Hungarian name is Doborján.)
Another town: Köszeg. A very little town with big heroes. There was a battle here against the Turkish troops in the 16. century, and the Hungarian troops could defence the castle and the town against them. In memory of this event, the church bells have been tolled at 11 o’clock since 1777.
And here, at the Western part of the country, there are many good restaurants too.

Adopted Tyke, just ask me, if you have a question, I hope, I can aswer you.

Anita
 
Re: Austria/Hungary (possibly Slovakia) tips by peripatetically on 18 May 2006 7:53pm
 
Hi anita. I'm gald you think I was creditable enough in my comments. I loved Hungry wuite a bit. I have been to Esztergom too. Rode up there on a local train and returned by hydrofoil. it was so much fun. I climbed the stairs atop one of the towers. Exhausted of course and know I'd never be able to do that again if my life depended on it. HAHAHAHA

I had a lot of fun shopping in Szentendre. Found some gorgeous embroidered traditional table linens which I gave as gifts and kept some for myself. If you go wandering through the resiential sttreets back behind the main section, there are little places tucked here and there selling things too. I watched a woamn work on her embroidery and tok a nice poicture of her hands and needlework. her things were faboulous. And that one restaurant , named with a dragon icon, (Can't recall it's name, was such an atmospheric place to grab some lunch. At the top of the hill is that little church too and the stairway down, the back route, was sort of enchanting, Narrow and steep with flowers alongside.

Of course, some of these things might no longer be happening, becasue I was there in the '80's.

Anita, I was also at Lake Balaton and ferried over to Tihany for a day and drove around with an old friend who used to live in Budapest. That lake is a real beauty. Went swimming. Nice to be able to go out so far and still be above water. But I heard bad stroms arise very very quickly and you could lose your life if caught out there in a boat.
 
Re: Austria/Hungary (possibly Slovakia) tips by intrepid on 20 May 2006 6:06pm
 
Anito_Petho wrote
"Another town: Köszeg. A very little town with big heroes. There was a battle here against the Turkish troops in the 16. century, and the Hungarian troops could defence the castle and the town against them. In memory of this event, the church bells have been tolled at 11 o’clock since 1777."

That's really interesting because where I live (Brno, Czech Republic) there's a similar story for why the noon bells ring at 11, only they claim that it dates from a Swedish seige in 1645. I wonder if we ripped off Koszeg's legend...
 
Re: Austria/Hungary (possibly Slovakia) tips by CarlT on 21 May 2006 5:23pm
 
Never been to Hungary, but for me Austria rates as one of my favourite countries. Its picturesque and the people friendly. The Tirol is my favourite with so many chocolate box villages to visit as well as larger cities like Innsbruck and Salzburg.

I would definately recommend a visit. By the way Vienna is well worth a visit to.
 
Re: Austria/Hungary (possibly Slovakia) tips by peripatetically on 22 May 2006 3:11pm
 
CarlT, Austria is my first love too. I've been there many times and can't really describe how gorgeous and wonderful it is for me. I'm not sure where my favorite area is. It's diverse and each has much to offer. Having made some friends in different areas, has increased sentiment for me. I have a Hungarian friend in Vienna and also had elderly friends there, native Austrians. Each were quite different. The elderly couple has passed away, but they showed me great times each visit. At one time they lived in the Vienna Woods, then along the Danube in Zeiselberg (near Krems), in a 200 year -old dairy courtyard farm. It overlooked vineyards and a ruined castle. The gentleman was born and raised in an old former Benedicktine monastery where unearthed Roman ruins in the foundation of the building were found. I have been to both places. He also had an apt. along Mariahilferstrasse and a home in Italy. Knowing these people was a true joy and they have forever made a true Austrian lover of me. I also knew a chef from south of Vienna, in the mountians, and he invited us to his sister's wedding (He moved to the USA and had his own restaurant here and we knew him.) We went to the wedding and reception and it was so much fun . A true fairytale setting in an old baroque chapel set in the side of a mountain. Of course, all these people had families and I came to know them as well and they too showed me around and took me to festivites.

My Hungarian friend lived in Vienna too and was the top bartender in Europe one year and worked at the Intercontinental Hotel bar. He later moved to a ski area and worked as an instructor in the hotel business. First , however, he and his wife hosted me in Budapest and Lake Balaton for 4 days. Part of my first visit to Hungary I was on my own discovering places for the first time in a country where the language was truly unfamilair and unlike any other except what the Finns speak. There are similarites between Hungary and Austria due to history and proximity, but Austria is definitely my first love.

I have written threads extensively on this in the past, but have no idea where those threads are in the vaults. lol. If anyone finds them, there might be some things of interest for them.

Patty~

P.S. CarlT, although I have visited in summer and autumn, I also skiied in Innsbruck and environs in March, 1976 and also in Zurs, Italy, right across the border. That trip was yet another experience and one I cherish to this day.
 
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