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Royal British Legion by Sophie-Louise on 31 October 2006 7:14pm
i know i keep posting this eve! just in a posting mood while i work on this boring presentation (lol)!


the representative at the annual poppy appeal launch my area in Lincolnshire are aiming to raise half a million this year!!! so i will certainly be selling hard!

but please, buy lots of poppies! many don't realise that it helps the young soldiers and their families who are involved in battle now, as well as those from the world wars. not to mention all the young war widows and their families and the injured who need looking after.

1 in 5 now need the royal british legion's support so give generously, it's a charity close to my heart.

Re: Royal British Legion by tucsonmike on 1 November 2006 5:28am
I remember you posting the site and remember buying a poppy when I was in England in 1991. I bought it from a crippled vet in a wheelchair, who we later saw on television in a wheelchair competition. My fathers friend who we stayed with was taken aback when we pointed at the television and said "that's the man we bought the poppy from."

One in five now need help? Wow. You see, Americans can't fathom that. For example, in World War II, we had rationing because FDR did it as a way to rally the nation. Americans don't realize how endangered Britain was in World War II. At least with the Iraq war, we are not villifying our vets the way we did with Vietnam.

A worthy charity. I enjoyed speaking with the man I met, who served his country and it put him in that wheelchair.
Re: Royal British Legion by sighthound on 1 November 2006 8:43am
In my youth, we used to see poppies for sale in the US but I haven't seen anyone selling them for decades.

I seem to remember that this practice arose after WWI? Does anyone know who sponsored it in the US and why it doesn't happen here anymore?
Re: Royal British Legion by peripatetically on 1 November 2006 1:33pm
Re: Royal British Legion by Sophie-Louise on 1 November 2006 2:41pm
this is why i care so much about it. i've been volunteering for the charity since i was 16. on my 17th birthday (rememberence day) i was the linconshire appeal's guest of honour as i was the youngest volunteer in the UK. my aim is to try and encourage younger people to get envolved because people as young as 18 fight in wars today. people of similar age should help them them out, i feel like i owe them so much because i just sit at university everyday while they are out their fighting. i really want more young people like myself to get involved. also, when the older generations leave us, the charity needs to carry on so WE NEED MORE YOUNG PEOPLE TO HELP!

To launch the appeal this year, the appeal chose a dress made out of poppies that was was made by two photography students in london for a project on rememberence. it's so beautiful and it's not only benefited their course but also advertised the appeal!

right, i've said my piece and i will be quiet now lol.

Re: Royal British Legion by perfectbitch on 1 November 2006 8:21pm
My grandfather fought in the Middle East in WW1 and so I always support the Rememberence Day poppies.

Mike, when you say "One in 5 need help", are they WW2 or Vietnam veterans? I did see a statistic which said that more Vietnam veterans have subsequently committed suicide than those that were killed in actual conflict.

Re: Royal British Legion by tucsonmike on 2 November 2006 1:18am
Linz, Sophie was mentioning one out of five British vets need help.

In re American vets needing help:
World War II Vets: Now, of course few are left. Any problems they had were papered over. They were heroes. (Except the African American ones in some quarters. Those guys though helped spark the Civil Rights Movement). It is not as though World War II vets did not have problems. They kept it quiet through raising their families and drinking.

Korean War Vets: In the United States, we call it "The Forgotten War." Most Americans supported it as a vague fight against Communism. In three years, more than 100,000 Americans died. Korean War Vets were basically ignored.

In those wars, the vets had long sea voyages home and were in an American base until discharged. They had time to decompress some. This changes with...

Vietnam. It started with a few advisors. In 1965, after the Gulf of Tonkin incident, Americans were gung ho to go in there. Vietnam differed because in the United States it was a class war. If you were in school, you could escape the draft. It was poor and working class kids who did the fighting and the dying. Elaine's home neighborhood of South Boston actually has the highest ratio of men killed in Vietnam. The country turned against the war after the Tet Offensive in 1968. As President Johnson said "We lost the war when we lost Walter Cronkite." You had the rioting on college campuses. In the end, the soldiers were only kept in the field for a year, because so many of them were becoming hooked on drugs, especially heroin. Officers were "fragged" (murdered in their sleep by rolling a grenade into their tent) frequently. The vet went in 36 hours from being in a rice paddy to being in say, San Francisco Intl Airport in uniform and immediately being called "baby killer" by others.

My cousin in a sick way lucked out being a POW. He came home on a military flight that landed on an Air Force base.
He was taken care of.

In Iraq, we support the troops. It is now being discovered however, an even higher rate of the troops over Vietnam (25% vs 13%) have psychological problems. We have an all volunteer military, but once in, you are on call even in the reserves. Some reservists are on their third and fourth tour of duty. Their families are breaking up, going bankrupt, etc.

Re: Royal British Legion by perfectbitch on 2 November 2006 9:27am
Sorry for my slip Mike - I just didn't see Sophie's first post. The ststistics you have posted are all shocking. I think the problems of the military personnel in Iraq is compounded by many factors - anti-bio weapon mediications being one of them. I support the soldiers but not the war if you know what I mean. I only mentioned the stat I posted as I only heard it recently and was very shocked.

November 11th was my mother-in-law's birthday (sadly no longer with us) so it has a special memory for us as well.

Re: Royal British Legion by Sophie-Louise on 4 November 2006 3:12pm
yay! good good! all you need now is the car sticker!
Re: Royal British Legion by kazzzz on 5 November 2006 10:14am
Soph, didn't you have your pic in the paper a few years ago, selling poppies? Or am I imagining it?
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