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Bill Richadson for President. by tucsonmike on 23 January 2007 4:32am
 
OK Ladies, now that he is running are we going to work for him?
 
Re: Bill Richadson for President. by sighthound on 23 January 2007 5:43am
 
I'm waiting to see if Richardson comes out in favor of the new proposed "animal rights" law in New Mexico. If he does, I'm working for Obama. (I've already written to him about that - think he'll listen?)

Geraldine
 
Re: Bill Richadson for President. by canaveralgumby on 23 January 2007 1:34pm
 
I have respect for SH's view, in fact I agree with you, G, on these issues of animal welfare.

[Here comes the big] BUT there are a LOT of issues to consider about our presidential candidates. How do you feel about Gov. Richardson, and the other candidates, otherwise?

All of you on the West Coast should have heard me Sunday a.m. when I tuned in to George Stephanopoulis (butchered spelling) and let out a big WOOO HOOO!!

Hypothetical question: How viable a candidate would he be if, all else being exactly the same, his name was, say, Ricardo? Of course, even with the Anglicized name, his face is the "map of Mexico."

So, other than having held a cabinet position in the Clinton Admin. (Sec'y of Energy), Ambassador to the UN, audiences with Kim Jung Il, NOT from the dreaded "Northeast," long-term governorship of a state dealing quite directly with the immigration issue, and a sweet face, tell me what's WRONG with him, I need to know.
 
Re: Bill Richadson for President. by sighthound on 23 January 2007 8:16pm
 
Obviously, a candidate's ideas on animals is far from my first consideration in picking one though I'm leaning toward Obama anyway for his lack of tired rhetoric and the fresh air that he's blown into the Democratic party, a party I'd almost given up on. (Now, an Obama/Richardson ticket would get me really excited.)

What is SO amazing is that the three front-runners are female, black and latino! We have certainly made progress this time. Now it just remains to be seen how big the backlash will be.

And how candidates view the current animal isues in the U.S. does give us a big clue as to how thoroughly they will research the more minor issues that they will have to deal with, especially those that will severely impact civil liberties and individual property rights. Obama has been pretty thoughtful about it but, from his actions in NM, Richardson seems to be falling for the AR propaganda and has appointed "animal rights" fascists to come up with policies for him. However, most of America has fallen for PETA's lies so we really can't fault him yet and are lobbying him intensely. This is becoming a very big issue in New Mexico.
 
Re: Bill Richadson for President. by canaveralgumby on 23 January 2007 8:27pm
 
Don't know if this is directly related, but yesterday 1/22 on "Hardball," Chris Matthews asked him what makes the West different, and how the Democratic party has to approach the people there. He mentioned the responsibilty which people in the region take for the stewardship of the land and environment. He talked about how "we" are ranchers and hunters. He tried to spin (maybe it's NOT spin) that these groups ALONG WITH various nature and environmental groups work together in their concern about the environment. There must be a transcript somewhere, I'm probably paraphrasing it poorly.
 
Re: Bill Richadson for President. by sighthound on 24 January 2007 2:26am
 
Wish I'd seen that episode of "Hardball". Yes, the West is definitely different. Since a greater proportion of voters here are not city people or at least have a lot more contact with non-city people and wide open spaces, the old Dem/Rep divisions get blurred. Our environmental concern is based on things we live with every day and not on sentimental ideas about cuddly creatures or wanting to hug a tree. There is also a lot of intolerance for nationally-mandated regulations that make no sense if you want to take care of yourself and your land as Westerners are wont to do, a traditionally Republican concern but Democrats here embrace it, too. (However, the Democrats are a lot more insensed about corporate inroads on the environment. One of my favorite films about this comes to mind - "The Milagro Beanfield War" - wonderful film by a prominent Dem who totally understands the West.)
 
Re: Bill Richadson for President. by tucsonmike on 24 January 2007 4:02am
 
OK the Americans on here can decide. Are we working for Richardson or Obama? We can always take a vote.
 
Re: Bill Richadson for President. by canaveralgumby on 24 January 2007 4:23am
 
Well, I can't say whom I'll be WORKING for yet, but I DID attend a John Edwards rally in '04 and MAN is he good looking!

:^D
 
Re: Bill Richadson for President. by canaveralgumby on 24 January 2007 4:42am
 
TRANSCRIPT COPIED FROM MSNBC WEBSITE - SORRY, IT'S LONG!

MATTHEWS: Up next, the latest on Scooter Libby‘s trial with HARDBALL‘s David Shuster. And later, a newly declared presidential candidate, Democratic Governor Bill Richardson and he is a charmer of the Bill Clinton class. We all agree. He‘s coming in here from New Mexico tonight. This is HARDBALL, only on MSNBC.

[snip – the following has nothing to do w/Richardson, but it’s funny]

MATTHEWS: Let‘s take a bit of “Saturday Night Live.” This was a skit that was on this week and it was (inaudible), Darrell Hammond playing me, and Amy Poehler as Hillary Clinton.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DARRELL HAMMOND, SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE: So what‘s your new plan for Iraq?

AMY POEHLER, SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE: Chris, this week I‘ll introduce a resolution calling for a greatly speeded up withdrawal of U.S. forces with a specific trigger mechanism. For every one-point increase in Senator Obama‘s poll numbers, 7,500 U.S. troops will have to be withdrawn. Of course, if his poll numbers should collapse or if he drops out of the race, the troops can stay in Iraq.

HAMMOND: I get it, but what about those Democratic primary voters who are still upset about your initial vote for the war?

POEHLER: Chris, I think most Democrats know me. They understand that my support for the war was always insincere. Of course, knowing what we know now, that you could vote against the war and still be elected president, I would never have pretended to support it.

[snip]

MATTHEWS: Welcome back. To the field of democratic candidates that have decided to run for president, you can now add Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico who announced Sunday. Governor, thank you.

How do you join a crowded field with Hillary, you know, they call her the 800-pound gorilla—I don‘t think it‘s a very felicitous way of describing her, but how do you go into a race that has already got Hillary and Obama in it?

GOV. BILL RICHARDSON (D), NEW MEXICO: Well, Chris, I am a governor. This country traditionally has elected governors. I am from the west, where there is a burgeoning Democratic vote. And then thirdly, I‘ve got the experience. I‘ve got the background. You know, we talk about getting out of Iraq, restoring America‘s international standing, becoming energy independent, creating jobs.

I have done that as secretary of energy, and U.N. ambassador. I negotiate with good guys, with bad guys. I think we need somebody that will bring the country together, that will heal some of the decisions between Democrats and Republicans, that will break the Washington gridlock.

And so what I am saying is that I‘ve got the executive experience, the drive, the vision, the optimism about this country, the patriotism to get it going again. And that‘s why I‘m throwing my hat. I know I‘m an underdog, I know that. I don‘t have the money of these other candidates or the name recognition, but the race, Chris, is a year away and I feel good about connecting with voters and talking positively about what I would do.

MATTHEWS: Do you think the Democratic voters, the people paying attention and the people voting in these polls and caught up with the idea of novelty? They have to have a woman, they have to have the first African-American. They‘re not thinking about the usual standards for winning a general election, executive experience, foreign policy experience, the usual things you would think we‘d be looking for as voters?

RICHARDSON: Well right now I believe primary voters are looking at name recognition, and what I sense around the country, Chris, from Democratic voters—and I have traveled a lot as chair of the Democratic Governors and I‘ve been to the primary states—is one, Democratic voters want somebody that can win, No. 1.

And No. 2, they want somebody that has experience, and knows how to get the job done, and I like to say that this is what encourages me besides the fact that I was able to win in a red state like New Mexico and get 40 percent of the Republican vote, that I can win a general election, that I can be acceptable in the Midwest and the West and the south and of course the traditional bastions of the Democratic Party.

The fact that I am Hispanic is a new element in the political equation that is good. But right now, I think the polls are based on name recognition. It‘s a year away. It‘s based on who gets the most press attention out of Washington D.C.

And I just believe that being a governor, where we are dealing directly with jobs and health care and renewable energy, fixing people‘s problems in contrast to the disconnect from the Congress and the administration and the Senate, that the American people will look at somebody with a track record, with experience, with foreign policy experience, with executive experience, with energy experience, if we‘re going to become energy independent.

MATTHEWS: You know, it seems to me, looking back over the elections of our lifetime, that every presidential election is a solution to a current problem. We look for in the new candidates running what is missing in the current president. How do you meet that test? What do you have that George W. Bush doesn‘t have? I will be blunt.

RICHARDSON: Foreign policy experience. When he came in as president, he traveled literally only to Mexico and Europe. I have been U.N. ambassador dealing with 185 countries. I‘ve been secretary of energy, running with the Russians and OPEC countries. I have negotiated just in Darfur with the Sudanese on a cease fire, with the North Koreans.

President Clinton used to say the bad guys like Richardson, so we will send him to deal with them. The point is that if we‘re going to have diplomacy as our main weapon, which we should, we should be talking to North Korea, to Syria, to Iran. We should be engaging diplomatically, and I have done it.

I don‘t have to study. I have actually negotiated, I have been face-to-face with very tough dictators, like Saddam Hussein and the North Koreans in Bashir of Sudan. That‘s what I bring.

And I bring a lifetime of not just a graduate degree, service in the House Intelligence Committee, U.N. ambassador, also secretary of energy. And as governor, I kind of—they say I am the only governor with a foreign policy, so I‘ve got that portfolio. And our main objective should be to restore America‘s standing in the world and get out of Iraq this year.

MATTHEWS: Let‘s talk about electoral votes. Tim Russert and others have pointed out that this could be an election decided in the southwest, not Florida like in ‘00, or not in Ohio, as in ‘04. But in ‘08, it‘s going to be your state, about Nevada, about Arizona, about Colorado. That fulcrum that could turn, it seems to me even if Hillary were the nominee for president, perhaps she was V.P., I don‘t know how it‘s going to work out, it‘s going to be moving out there, because I think the Midwest could be a tougher challenge for her than the southwest. Do you agree?

RICHARDSON: Well I do agree that the west is a huge opportunity for Democrats. Had John Kerry won Nevada, New Mexico and Arizona, he did not have to win Ohio and he would be president today. And we‘ve neglected the west, and now you are seeing a sea of change from Canada to Mexico of western states dominated by democratic governors, new House and Senate seats, Tester in Montana. So this is virgin, dynamic territory for a democrat and I am from this region.

MATTHEWS: Were you inspired that Jimmy Smits beat Alan Alda on “West Wing” for president?

RICHARDSON: Well, I watched that with interest and I liked the ending.

MATTHEWS: I bet you did.

RICHARDSON: But at the same time, Chris, I think the American people really want somebody who can get things done and bring the country together and talk about spirit and talk about values, and just resolve the differences that we have, a healer, a unifier, and I‘ve done that. I‘ve done that as a diplomat and negotiator. I‘ve done it as governor, but the voters will decide.

MATTHEWS: Well, governor, you‘ve got one thing going for you.

Everybody likes you, so that might help. It sometimes does.

RICHARDSON: Thanks, Chris.


 
Re: Bill Richadson for President. by tucsonmike on 25 January 2007 1:37am
 
Thank you for posting this Cori.
 
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